Who won the Debate?

Who won?

  • Sam Brownback

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Jim Gilmore

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Rudy Giuliani

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Mike Huckabee

    Votes: 1 2.7%

  • Duncan Hunter

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • John McCain

    Votes: 5 13.5%

  • Ron Paul

    Votes: 20 54.1%

  • Mitt Romney

    Votes: 6 16.2%

  • Tom Tancredo

    Votes: 2 5.4%

  • Tommy Thompson

    Votes: 1 2.7%
  • Total voters
    37
  • Poll closed .
Kinda weird seeing a conservative republican.. I thought they were extinct. . .
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***Sad to say, real conservatives like Paul might as well be extinct, as they have no chance of winning the presidency. People just can't tolerate much actual freedom. Way too many, and not just Democrats, want to have their lives managed by government and be told what to do by "strong" leaders, ie, fascist-types who thump their Bibles and spout nationalism and "muscular" militarism for dubious ends. Few people seem concerned, like Eisenhauer was, about the military/industrial (now corporate) complex determining government policy.

I enjoyed hearing both Ron Paul in the Republican debate and ex-senator Gravel in the Democratic debate. They both said things the others wouldn't be caught dead saying, and both were dismissed by the media for presenting unpalatable truths without weaseling. Thinking different is a non-starter, sadly.

Mitt Romney just plain rubs me the wrong way--he is slicker than Mr.Willie, IMO. I must say Huckabee actually impressed me as one of the few stridently Christian politicians who doesn't come across as a sanctimonious prig, but as an honestly good and decent guy. Probably way too decent to get elected president.
 
I didn't watch the debate but I do want to know which ones raised their hands when asked if they didn't believe in evolution.

I don't know who won but any of them most certainly lost.
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Apparently it was Brownback, Tancredo and Huckabee.

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Did anyone ask GWB that? :D

If you fail at basic science, why should that disqualify you for the presidency? We already have one that states he doesn't read much.
 
If you fail at basic science, why should that disqualify you for the presidency? We already have one that states he doesn't read much.
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oy, that's my fear, that there are enough people in this country that don't think the leader of the most technologically advanced nation on the planet - the one responsible for the majority of the world's scientific progress since its inception - should have a basic understanding of science


What next, we'll elect a guy that can barely count or put a sentence together?








o wait :rolleyes: :p
 
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I searched the transcript and there was no mention of gun control. I wonder why?

I would have liked to see Mitt and Rudy deal with it. Also, the various 'hunters'.
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I would also like to see this... but I think emotions are currently a little too high.

So close on the heels of the Virginia Tech incident... it would be very difficult to have an intelligent and objective debate on the subject... It's difficult enough to have such a communication with the anti-everything-love-a-lie types.

I'm confident the subject will come up a little later on... perhaps in the "real" debates... :)
 
The big story right now is the fact that there's no "big story" about how Paul wooped a$$ in that debate.
The MSM is like a buncha kittens in a litterbox trying to cover it up. They don't even want to admit that he exists, let alone report that he won according to all the online polling.
ABC went so far as to post a poll asking who won and included everybody present...except Paul.
Meanwhile, the phones are ringing off the hook at SC GOP from concerned callers making sure he'll be at the next debate, and c-span's call-in vote was overwhelmingly Paul.

They ain't gonna be able to hide this forever ;)
 
Don't know if Slash is pullin' our leg or if ABC changed their website, but here it is. Go Ron Paul!!

http://abcnews.go.com/politics/beseenbeheard/popup?id=3135373&POLL288=4000000

WHICH REPUBLICAN CAME OUT ON TOP?
Republican presidential candidates held their first debate recently.

Who do you think came out on top at the Republican debate?

Ron Paul

228
It doesn't matter who won. I wouldn't put America in another Republican's hands.

18
Mitt Romney

6
None of them. I'm interested in the possibility of new candidates like Fred Thompson.

4
Rudy Guiliani

3
Mike Huckabee

0
John McCain

0
Sam Brownback

0
Tom Tancredo

0
Duncan Hunter

0
James Gilmore

0
Tommy Thompson

0
Total Vote: 259
Not a scientific survey.

badbob:D
 
They must have just changed it as I commented. The poll is up to 3,835 for Paul since you posted.
Luckily, I kept a picture.
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According to this post on MSNBC's comment thread re. the debates:

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05/05/07 06:26 PM Hawaii and Alabama Libertarians, I am also wondering why no "insta poll" data has been released. Does anyone know if such polling data was released after the dem debate, and if so, how long after the debate?

Also, ABC has now changed their poll to include Dr. Paul as a choice. What sort of pressure must they have rec'd in order to make such a change?
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They changed the poll to include him some time yesterday before 6:26 PM
 
I have to admit prior to the debate I had dismissed Ron Paul. I still do not think he has a chance but I definetly like what I heard and will probably vote for him.

Barring another 9/11 whoever gets the Democratic nomination will (IMHO) become president in '08. Maybe in '12.

NukemJim
 
I was extremely disappointed in Glenn Beck on his recent show covering the debates for skewering Ron Paul for basically no reason whatsoever. He judged his looks and asked libertarians if Ron Paul was 'the best you can do?'

Typical. It reminds me of a radio program I heard during the last presidential election. A man and woman were on the air and the man began listing all the presidential hopefuls. When the man mentioned Badnarik, the woman said "Who? Bad who? Who the heck is THAT loser?" I called the station and complained but obiously that was a waste of time.

I hate to get all Dale Gribble here, but when someone like Glenn Beck can't recognize the virtues of a candidate like Ron Paul, something is rotten in Denmark. Which is where I may go, incidentally, after November 2008. ;)
 
Beck should look at the whole field and say - is that the bes the country can do?

Then CNN should look at him and ask the same question. Listen to NPR if you want to hear folks with some intelligence.
 
Seems like ABC's fangs are dripping with poison over the fact that they got caught totally ignoring Paul by some Internet sites such as Digg.com.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Story?id=3147940

Rep. Ron Paul, R-Texas, who barely registers in public opinion polls of the Republican presidential field, won last Thursday night's debate.

That was the unmistakable conclusion of the online poll posted by debate sponsor MSNBC, which registered Paul with higher positive ratings and lower negative numbers than any of the other nine candidates on the stage.
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Seems like somebody is keeping an eyeball on the media and the media doesnt like it when they get called out.

Fox News totally ignored Ron Paul...lol fair and balanced? or fair as we want to be?
 
I know. Glenn Beck's attitude doesn't surprise me, but I'm extremely disenchanted with Fox News. Ol' Bill is too busy on his Megan's Law crusade lately to give our man Ron Paul any airtime.
 
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