Got it today and it is not a Pedersoli. Dunno where he got that from. It was made in 76 and has RG Pioneer Arms on top flat of barrel. It is very well built and the action and timing are very good. The frame has turned a nice plum color. The only fault I can find is the turn line on the cylinder and a few slight scratches also on cylinder. I'm happy with it even if it isn't a Pedersoli.
Who says you can't get a good deal anymore?
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madcratebuilder
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I concur, double strike FAP, The RG Pioneer Arms is a new name for my list.
hawg, that photo cleared up a mystery revolver for me. I have a 1979 Navy Arms 1858 in nickle with what appears to be a triple strike FAP in the same location.
This 1858 is a very smooth revolver and has a small grip frame.
hawg, that photo cleared up a mystery revolver for me. I have a 1979 Navy Arms 1858 in nickle with what appears to be a triple strike FAP in the same location.
This 1858 is a very smooth revolver and has a small grip frame.
Fingers McGee
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Mailman delivered the Hickok Model today. Looks really good. No marks on the cylinder, no nipple marks on the hammer face, wedge came out with just slightest tap with butt of screwdriver, went back in finger tight. Arbor bottoms out in barrel, action is smooth, timing is good and lockup is tight. Bolt screw was noticeably loose, head stood proud of the frame. Took about a full turn to tighten, trigger and hammer screws were barely loose. Grip frame screws were all tight. Slight blemish in grip wiped off with a little cleaner.
Here are a couple more pictures of it.
Here are a couple more pictures of it.
Fingers McGee
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Fingers McGee
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I'll try; but, it won't be easy. Something is bound to come up.
Bless you Fingers McGee
Got my two Hickock 1851 Navys today on the great brown truck of joy.
Wouldn't have bought them if Fingers hadn't posted pics.
I am really pleased. Exterior finish is flawless and would make you throw rocks at Uberti. No kidding. Timing is spot on with both guns. Haven't had time to tear one down yet but will give a full report when I do. These are a cut way above what I expect from Pietta, way way above. The regular retail is $369 but Cabela had them on sale for $249 and that is a steal.
Got my two Hickock 1851 Navys today on the great brown truck of joy.
Wouldn't have bought them if Fingers hadn't posted pics.
I am really pleased. Exterior finish is flawless and would make you throw rocks at Uberti. No kidding. Timing is spot on with both guns. Haven't had time to tear one down yet but will give a full report when I do. These are a cut way above what I expect from Pietta, way way above. The regular retail is $369 but Cabela had them on sale for $249 and that is a steal.
Fingers McGee
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Good for ya Denster. Be sure to give us a complete report when you test drive them.
I'd take mine out; but it's been to blamed hot here lately to spend any time at the range. Heat index hovers in the 100 to 110 range daily right now.
I'd take mine out; but it's been to blamed hot here lately to spend any time at the range. Heat index hovers in the 100 to 110 range daily right now.
Well I took both guns apart today and I continue to be amazed. I'll list what I found in sequence.
1) Wedges came out with a light tap and the spring end is properly beveled in both directions so the wedge goes in and out nicely. Both wedges were perfectly fit. Arbor wedge slot end is properly tapered.
2) Arbor length is right on the money on both guns.
3) B/C gap is .005 on one and .004 on the other.
4) The hammer just kisses the nipple at rest.
5) All of the nipples came out with no problems.
6) On dissasembly all screws came out easily.
7) Bolt fits cylinder slots with a clearance of just at .001.
8) Trigger pulls are smooth but a little long as expected one is 4lb the other 3.6lb.
9)All internals are smooth I couldn't find anything to improve.
10) No burrs present anywhere on the frame.
11) Case colors are more Colt like than anything I have seen from the Italians.
12) Engraving, while I'm sure it is done by machine or laser, is excellent.
13) On the blued surfaces the polish is to a higher degreee than usual and the blue is deeper and richer.
14) Forcing cone is well cut and smooth.
The only detractions I could find on either gun, and this is really picking nits, is I found some very faint polish marks on the barrel of one gun and the faux ivory grips stand very slightly proud of the frame on both guns. However they are otherwise well fitted with no gaps.
Bad news is that the sale is over and Cabela's has them back at $349.
If these are examples of the quality that Pietta intends to produce going forward then Uberti is going to have to get on the ball or run and hide.
Hope for some free time this week to see if they shoot as good as they look.
1) Wedges came out with a light tap and the spring end is properly beveled in both directions so the wedge goes in and out nicely. Both wedges were perfectly fit. Arbor wedge slot end is properly tapered.
2) Arbor length is right on the money on both guns.
3) B/C gap is .005 on one and .004 on the other.
4) The hammer just kisses the nipple at rest.
5) All of the nipples came out with no problems.
6) On dissasembly all screws came out easily.
7) Bolt fits cylinder slots with a clearance of just at .001.
8) Trigger pulls are smooth but a little long as expected one is 4lb the other 3.6lb.
9)All internals are smooth I couldn't find anything to improve.
10) No burrs present anywhere on the frame.
11) Case colors are more Colt like than anything I have seen from the Italians.
12) Engraving, while I'm sure it is done by machine or laser, is excellent.
13) On the blued surfaces the polish is to a higher degreee than usual and the blue is deeper and richer.
14) Forcing cone is well cut and smooth.
The only detractions I could find on either gun, and this is really picking nits, is I found some very faint polish marks on the barrel of one gun and the faux ivory grips stand very slightly proud of the frame on both guns. However they are otherwise well fitted with no gaps.
Bad news is that the sale is over and Cabela's has them back at $349.
If these are examples of the quality that Pietta intends to produce going forward then Uberti is going to have to get on the ball or run and hide.
Hope for some free time this week to see if they shoot as good as they look.
Fingers McGee
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While I haven't pulled mine down yet, the evaluation of your pair mirrors my evaluation of the one I got. I just wish Pietta would get the grip shape right. They did it for the GWII revolvers, why can't they do it for the Navies?
FM
FM
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Here is the additional info you asked for:
Chamber/bore alignment: No misalignment visible on any chamber on either gun.
Chamber dia: .368/.368
Bore Dia land to land: .362/.3625
Groove dia: .372/.372
Arbor dia: .432/.432
Cylinder Arbor dia .435/.4352
Photo does not depict true case colors due to flash.
Here is the additional info you asked for:
Chamber/bore alignment: No misalignment visible on any chamber on either gun.
Chamber dia: .368/.368
Bore Dia land to land: .362/.3625
Groove dia: .372/.372
Arbor dia: .432/.432
Cylinder Arbor dia .435/.4352
Photo does not depict true case colors due to flash.
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More good news on Pietta. I was preping the revolvers to go shooting later this week. I took the nipples out to put never sieze on them and noticed they looked a bit different. The cones were nice and smooth with no tiny ridges that I'm used to with Pietta and the flash hole looked smaller. Surprise surprise! A "10 CCI cap was a perfect fit and the flash holes measured .029 not the usual .032. I think Tressos are .028 so that is pretty good. Looks like Pietta learned more than one lesson.