Who makes a .308 or .30-06 boltgun with a detachable 10rd mag?
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Glock4ever
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Why do you want more than 4 or 5 rnds?
If u don't mind me asking "Why?". I never really understood why someone would want more than 4 to 5 shots in a mag? I'm not trying to be an ass but why is it necessary to have so many shots in a boltgun? The only boltguns that I know of that have stock 10 rnd mags is the Lee Enfield and the Steyr Scout [This is off the top of my head]. There really isn't a great demand for large cap mags I guess.
If u don't mind me asking "Why?". I never really understood why someone would want more than 4 to 5 shots in a mag? I'm not trying to be an ass but why is it necessary to have so many shots in a boltgun? The only boltguns that I know of that have stock 10 rnd mags is the Lee Enfield and the Steyr Scout [This is off the top of my head]. There really isn't a great demand for large cap mags I guess.
rugerfreak
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Steyr tactical-------10 rounds of .308 for $699
Turn the question around:
Why would you NOT want a hunting rifle around that couldn't be pressed into a tactical role in a pinch?
Put the 5rd mag in, it's a perfectly good deer gun. Grab a stack of 10s, and you could give some bunch of thugs a real headache.
The way I see it, if you're attacked by any bunch of idiots influenced by modern weaponry thinking, packing "cosmetically challenged semi-autos" of some type, your odds they're really able to wring 'em to their max is low. Even if they're military of some sort. To survive that sort of thing, solo, getting up close and spraying like they do is a ridiculous idea.
The way to beat 'em is to stretch the range, keep cool, pick every shot.
This has been borne out in a number of encounters between hunters in Africa and paramilitary poachers from rebel groups packing AKs and looking for Ivory. In open country, at long ranges, the big bolt-guns rule
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Why would you NOT want a hunting rifle around that couldn't be pressed into a tactical role in a pinch?
Put the 5rd mag in, it's a perfectly good deer gun. Grab a stack of 10s, and you could give some bunch of thugs a real headache.
The way I see it, if you're attacked by any bunch of idiots influenced by modern weaponry thinking, packing "cosmetically challenged semi-autos" of some type, your odds they're really able to wring 'em to their max is low. Even if they're military of some sort. To survive that sort of thing, solo, getting up close and spraying like they do is a ridiculous idea.
The way to beat 'em is to stretch the range, keep cool, pick every shot.
This has been borne out in a number of encounters between hunters in Africa and paramilitary poachers from rebel groups packing AKs and looking for Ivory. In open country, at long ranges, the big bolt-guns rule
.Jim, an option would be to buy a Remington 700 and have the HS Precision detachable mag floorplate put into it. I believe they offer both 5 and 10 round mags. The unit costs about $180 and is reported to be a drop in. It's also stainless steel which is stronger than the Remington stock floorplate and comes in matte black. Just something to think about if you already have a 700. If not pick up a 700VS in .308 and put the above floorplate on it and you'll have a fine rifle that will shoot under MOA and you'll be able to get all sorts of after market things (good scope mounts, triggers, stocks, knowledgable riflesmiths, ease of rebarreling, etc) for also unlike the Styers. Also from what I've heard Styer isn't in a good way business wise now adays. A friend that has an SSG was told by Styers main distibutor to buy any spare parts he might need because he's not sure when they wil be sending more. You make your own choice but a majority of police agencys and the military use the Remington 700 for a reason.
Glock4ever
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Tactical role.
Jim I think u explained exactly why I asked the question in the first place. If u are constantly displacing to take "long shots" why do you need 10 rnds as opposed to 5 rnds? I can't even think of a situation where you would be shooting into an armed or unarmed mob with a boltgun [unless you are a disgruntled postman]. I believe that the ultimate tactical role for a boltgun in the modern battlefield is for the scout/sniper and almost all the sniper tactical weapons systems have relatively low capacity mags which seems to work quite well. Besides in the situation that u described I think hiding and letting the mob move on is your best option as opposed to fighting and eventually getting overrun unless you have support. If on the other hand you are fighting it out in open terrain over 4-500 yards than I think a M1A would be a better option than a boltgun. Better range, and accuracy than most modern assault rifles nad better capacity than a boltgun while leaving out only really extreme shots 800+ shots. JMHO, though.
Jim I think u explained exactly why I asked the question in the first place. If u are constantly displacing to take "long shots" why do you need 10 rnds as opposed to 5 rnds? I can't even think of a situation where you would be shooting into an armed or unarmed mob with a boltgun [unless you are a disgruntled postman]. I believe that the ultimate tactical role for a boltgun in the modern battlefield is for the scout/sniper and almost all the sniper tactical weapons systems have relatively low capacity mags which seems to work quite well. Besides in the situation that u described I think hiding and letting the mob move on is your best option as opposed to fighting and eventually getting overrun unless you have support. If on the other hand you are fighting it out in open terrain over 4-500 yards than I think a M1A would be a better option than a boltgun. Better range, and accuracy than most modern assault rifles nad better capacity than a boltgun while leaving out only really extreme shots 800+ shots. JMHO, though.
http://www.steyr-mannlicher.com/english/smg3120.htm
The Pro Hunter series from Steyr has an optional kit to extend the capacity to 10 rounds.
And they are absolute tack-drivers right out of the box.
The tactical can be had with black furniture, a double trigger, and optional heavy barrel, but that's only available in .308 (of the two you mentioned).
The Pro Hunter series from Steyr has an optional kit to extend the capacity to 10 rounds.
And they are absolute tack-drivers right out of the box.
The tactical can be had with black furniture, a double trigger, and optional heavy barrel, but that's only available in .308 (of the two you mentioned).
Have you looked at the fn police sniper rifle being marketed by Fulton Armory?........the only problem is that the magazine only holds 4 rounds. The target I saw shot with this 308 caliber rifle had nine shots in one hole at 100yds, and the 10th was pulled because my buddy the shooter was excited, it was only an inch off of the nine hole group.......I liked the rifle well enough that one now sits in my safe, and Im struggling to decide on which scope to purchase,.......I asked about a ten round magazine for this rifle and so far there is none in the works....Id also like to see a single shot convertible conversion for this rifle......but I dont normally get what I want...lol.....fubsy.
Jim,
Do take a look at Rem's 760X series of pumps. Total barrel free float, very accurate, standard 4-round mags & others offer 'em to 10-12 rounds. Calibers of .243/.308, .30-06, etc. which will certainly reach out there. Very fast action. Even switching out 4-round mags is not all that much of a handicap.
Only a couple downsides I can think of is shooting prone & the slide does make a bit of rattle noise when doing the sneaky stuff.
Picked one up used with a (mumble) 3X9 scope a few years back for $165 - a decent buy. Thing'll do well under MOA longer than I will.
Do take a look at Rem's 760X series of pumps. Total barrel free float, very accurate, standard 4-round mags & others offer 'em to 10-12 rounds. Calibers of .243/.308, .30-06, etc. which will certainly reach out there. Very fast action. Even switching out 4-round mags is not all that much of a handicap.
Only a couple downsides I can think of is shooting prone & the slide does make a bit of rattle noise when doing the sneaky stuff.
Picked one up used with a (mumble) 3X9 scope a few years back for $165 - a decent buy. Thing'll do well under MOA longer than I will.
Whoa, that Remington slidegun looks great, if 10rd mags are available. It seems to take the same mags as the semi-auto and probably has a similar internal mechanism, so given all the harassment of "black rifle owners" people would naturally gravitate to nicer looking choices.
Of course, that means switching from 7.62x39 to .30-06 or similar...I'm sure that's just what the Brady Bunch wanted
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Anyways. When I score a rifle, it's gonna be a tough choice between that thing and the new Marlin 9-shot .45-70
. THAT bad boy just defines "wretched overkill" . Gotta get into at least limited handloading to feed it but I have to do that eventually anyhow...
Of course, that means switching from 7.62x39 to .30-06 or similar...I'm sure that's just what the Brady Bunch wanted
.Anyways. When I score a rifle, it's gonna be a tough choice between that thing and the new Marlin 9-shot .45-70
. THAT bad boy just defines "wretched overkill" . Gotta get into at least limited handloading to feed it but I have to do that eventually anyhow...It does take the same mags - sorta. The semi's mags have a bolt lock back thingy on 'em. Other than that, same-o.
Mine's in .30-06 & frankly don't know barrel length off hand. Kinda wish it was a .308, but no never mind. They do have a carbine version with a shorter barrel.
Accuracy & reliability of the pump is way mucho to that of Rem's semis from all I've heard.
I am a bolt gun guy for all practical purposes, but that pump will most surely lay down some serious long range stuff in a hurry. Very PC "assault rifle."
Never have tried out the boosted capacity mags, but Cabella's had plastics for ~$10 & metals for about twice that or so. 10 or 12 rounders - forget which.
& it's that law of unintended consequences that'll bite the grabbers. Make us all upgrade to "real" rifles rather than these intermediate calibers ...
Mine's in .30-06 & frankly don't know barrel length off hand. Kinda wish it was a .308, but no never mind. They do have a carbine version with a shorter barrel.
Accuracy & reliability of the pump is way mucho to that of Rem's semis from all I've heard.
I am a bolt gun guy for all practical purposes, but that pump will most surely lay down some serious long range stuff in a hurry. Very PC "assault rifle."
Never have tried out the boosted capacity mags, but Cabella's had plastics for ~$10 & metals for about twice that or so. 10 or 12 rounders - forget which.
& it's that law of unintended consequences that'll bite the grabbers. Make us all upgrade to "real" rifles rather than these intermediate calibers ...
inGobwetrust
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WilderBill
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Gibbs.
Not terrably accurate, but it is a battle rifle to begin with. Sort of...
Not terrably accurate, but it is a battle rifle to begin with. Sort of...
boogerbawb
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My Gibbs .308 "Jungle Carbine" is a handy, solid little rifle but those extra 10-shot mags cost around $30-40 apiece and using various types of ammo the best I can wring out of mine is not even 2 MOA at 100 yards.