Which takedown method do you like the least?

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Tropical Z

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I was cleaning my recent range trip semis tonight and once again found myself cursing the takedown and putting back together again of my FEG Hi-Power clone.I swear this would be easier if i had 3 hands,but maybe i'm just all thumbs.I know the principal is super simple but i always struggle getting that slide release pin to come out while my left hand strains to hold back the slide.On the other hand,i love the disassembly and reassembly of the Makarov type guns.Once you've Arnied it a few times its such a piece of cake.What guns to you have difficulties with if any?:rolleyes:
 
Most annoying?

Ultra-tight 1911's, especially those with full-length guide rods (pistols shouldn't require a tool to field-strip).
The Millenium series Taurii are enough to cause premature gray.
*&* Autos, while not especially annoying to take apart, can be a reassembly challenge for the uninitiated.
If I charged money for every Ruger Mk. II owner who came in to the shop to have his pistol reassembled, I'd be rich.

Least annoying?

Beretta and SIG P-series: flip lever, strip slide.
Glock-style (includes Sigma and P-99).
P7-series: push button, yank slide.
 
My favorites to disasemble: Sigs and Glocks are the easiest semi-autos for me to (field strip) disasemble. I can take my Glocks and Sigs apart in seconds.

Least favorites: any pistol that requires popping out the slide stop. The extra steps and aligning notches just take slightly more time.

I dislike having to pop out the damn slide stop on my CZ's and Ruger (P97). Its not easy to get the take down notches to allign perfectly, especially when the slide is slipery. Additionally, my CZ97B model even has more parts to disasemble (recoil spring plug, barrel bushing). OTOH, the CZ's (I have the 75 and 97) perform so well that I overlook the slightly increased difficulty of disasembly.
 
I think that the Sig takedown method is both very, very easy and also very, very safe. First, you lock the slide open. Second, you turn the takedown lever. Third, you release the slide and push it off the front of the gun.

The Glock system, where you pull the trigger with the slide closed, has helped a number of doofuses (doofi?) put extra holes in things...

M1911
 
M1911,

That's why my fieldstripping instructions to new Glock buyers went like this:

"Remove the magazine.

Now pull back the slide briskly and check the chamber to make sure it's empty.

Now pull back the slide briskly and check the chamber to make sure it's empty.

Now pull back the slide briskly and check the chamber to make sure it's empty.

Now point the pistol at something you don't like and pull the trigger..."
 
I know the principal is super simple but i always struggle getting that slide release pin to come out while my left hand strains to hold back the slide.
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Perhaps my Argy FM Hi Power is different, but to field strip mine I pull the slide back and engage the safety into the second notch cut into the slide, about two inches forward of the actual safety notch. I then simply push out the slide release pin. Reassembly is just the same, pull the slide back and lock it back with the safety and just reinsert the slide release. No struggling needed, the safety holds back the slide.:D

For overall simplicity..I prefer my Glock.

Good Shooting
RED
 
My RUGER 22 pistol is a pain in the A-- to break down for me . I rarely take it to the range for that reason..As hard as I try to master the procedure I can't get comfortable with it..:barf:
 
Perhaps I'm doing it wrong...

With my FEG PJK 9hp;

I move the slide back to slide-lock, push the slide release pin in to flush, lower the slide and pull the slide release lever out. Eyes closed, no sweat.
 
I find my wife's P228 to be very easy to take down. My Beretta 96 was, too. My USP45C is kind of a PITA.
 
The least....has to be any weapon that needs a little tool :mad: to hold springs in place while you break down the weapon.
 
The Cougar takedown isn't hard - just flip the lever and off it comes. It's putting the dang thing together that makes me want extra fingers to hold the barrel and spring together while you try and put it all back together.

-- Chuck
 
I have the Ruger Mark II down to about 15 seconds. Unfortunately, most of my friends have one as well, but can't reassemble it without about 10 minutes of bitching and moaning, and guess who the stuckee is who has to help 'em reassemble the thing ?

Eric M, is there something odd about your USPc ? Both of mine disassemble in 5 seconds or less. Now, a complete detail strip is another matter.

My least favorite takedown procedure is the Glock kB! high-speed takedown...

Ducking for cover...;)
 
To take down my FN HP-DAc, I have to manually hold the slide back about 1/2 inch, press upward on the slide stop, and push the stop out from the other side of the frame--all at the same time. Since the stop is held tightly, this procedure is a real pain.

Replacing the stop is worse, because it just does not want to go past the metal boss at the rear of the recoil spring (the boss is what holds the stop in place). I have to tap the stop with a nylon hammer to get it started. It then has to be wrestled home with extreme care--if it goes in too high or too low it will mar the finish of the slide or frame. As careful as I try to be, I've nicked the slide twice. :eek: Aargh!

Let's see, how many hands does this add up to?

BTW, the HP-DAc is a quality gun overall. But obviously FN decided that the BHP's ease of takedown had to be sacrificed in favor of the DA feature. Was this a good trade-off? I'm not sure.
 
Tamara:

It's not that I think the Glock takedown system should be a problem. It certainly isn't for me.

Unfortunately, there's more than a few idiots out there. The Sig system is more idiot proof in this respect.

M1911
 
Smith and Wesson 39/59 and their ilk. Hold back the slide, push out the pin which is held under spring tension from the recoil spring guide, remove the pin let the slide forward gently, remove the slide, remove the recoil guide rod and bushing (older models), then the barrel. Reassembly is even more difficult because of the two levers in the frame that must be depressed in order to get the slide on. Getting the slide stop pin back in can be annoying as well. The 39's saving grace is the shape of the grip and lovely checkered wood stocks.
 
I never had much trouble with slide stops, but on the Ruger guns,
it was remembering to flip down the (I think it's called this,
anyway) ejector plate inside the magazine well. The S&W pistols
never gave me any trouble, I can do those with my eyes closed,
and the 1911 types weren't too bad, but I never did like trying to
hold the CZ75's and BHP's recoil springs in place while assembling
them.

ANM
 
I think the Glock and the Sig are the easiest, but I don't like the Glock method because it requires pulling the trigger on the gun. It requires extreme negligence to do so, but I know first hand of a friend who fired off a round during the disassembly process. Rather than dropping the mag, racking the slide, and pulling the trigger, he racked the slide, dropped the mag, then pulled the trigger. Most people clean their guns at home indoors. I think pulling the trigger on your gun should be an option, not a requirement, when in my home. Now saying all this, I have owned 5 glocks and still own 2 and have never (knock on wood) had a ND with one as a result of the disassembly process or any other reason for that matter. I am just saying that it could happen if you have your head up your butt and get the steps out of order.
 
there is no pistol which could possibly be less fun to take down and re-assemble than the ruger mk II

between the spring loaded lever and the sharp edges, it's just a matter of time before the blood flows. luckily it doesn't require much (any?) cleaning :eek:
 
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