Which New 9 For Me?

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Mikul

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It's finally time for a second handgun. I want to stick with 9mm to keep from reloading another caliber and because I'm not interested in any other caliber (except for the 10mm).

I have an H&K USP9c which has been great. The practical choice would be to buy it a twin, but I want something a little different too.

I want something accurate, reasonable to carry, able to fire the first shot in single-action and reliable as stupidity.

I've shot a couple of Glocks in 9mm and greatly prefer my H&K, so they're off of my list. The Sigs have to be decocked and therefore lose the single-action requirement. The Walther P99 looks interesting, but I hear complaints. The Beretta 92 is on my list to shoot.

Any other ideas?
 
Why not a Browning Hi-Power? I prefer Sig's,
but you stated a first shot SA was a requirement;
thus I cast a vote for the BHP. Oh! by the way,
Sig's can be thumb cocked, for a single-action
first shot.

Best Wishes,
Ala Dan, Life Member N.R.A.
 
I'm with Dan. If you're looking for a good, crisp SA then the BHP is the way to go.

Another option would be a 1911 rechambered for 9mm. Most folks I know or have talked with about them really like them.
 
Not much to choose from other than a BHP or CZ, if you want to stick with SA.

As far as Walther complaints, they seem to be limited to the S&W/Walther frankenguns and early P99 .40s. I haven't seen anything bad about the 9mm P99
 
"I want something accurate, reasonable to carry, able to fire the first shot in single-action and reliable as stupidity. "

BHP meets all your criteria. It is quite carryable with a good holster and good belt, too. It's narrower than you'd think, which makes it disappear if the holster holds it properly with the grip close to the body.
 
What kind of complaints are you hearing about the Walther P99.
I havent heard or had any. Now the S&W 99's, that s a differnt story. With the exception of a Glock 20 10mm, I couldnt see a better edition to you buding collection. And YES, legal full capacity magazines are available. KY Imports has them for $99 each.
 
Simple-- HK P7M8

-You already like HK's
-9mm
-Easy to conceal
-Single-action all the time.
-Extremely accurate and reliable

Downside is the cost.
 
I'd suggest that since you already have one polymer frame in the HK, go for the feel of cold hard steel!

I'll cast a vote for the CZ75/85. I have a 75B military model - you can get these for under $400, but you'd better hurry from what I read everywhere. I've also read that the 75SA single-action only model has a VERY good trigger, although i've not shot one myself. My CZ has eaten everything I've fed it so far - about 450 rounds. And 15-rounders are available.

Accurate? If I were a better shooter, I could probably castrate pigeons off the top of my house with the CZ!;)

Good luck.
 
Kind of depends on how much you want to spend.

If you have the bucks: P7M8 $1200 The king of carry pistols
Less money but still a quality gun: BHP $550 Great gun
Even less money but still quality: CZ 75/85 and Compact $300-$450 The dark horse - a real spoiler
Cheap but not too bad: FEG Highpower Clone $250 Shootable and reliable.
All prices are for NIB guns.

I don't have any experience with the 9mm 1911s, but I've heard a lot of good things.
 
The Beretta 92 also has a decocker and is DA on the first shot. I have two 92s and a SIG P226 and love them. The DA, IMHO, is not a problem. For carry, you might look at something like the SIG P239, small, still DA/SA.

I second (or third or whatever) the Browning HiPower. Hi-cap mags are relatively reasonably available. For carry, you would have to be comfortable with cocked and locked.
 
Thanks for all of your quick replies.

I'm going to try and check out the Browning Hi-Power. Are there new versions of this available, or are they all used? If they're all used, are there any peculiarities I should be alert for when shopping for one. Thankfully, I know someone who owns a BHP and will hopefully let me shoot it.

The CZ-75sa sounds like a winner. Now if I can only find a place that rents them.

Who makes 1911's in 9mm?

As for the P7 series... I was all ready to buy an M13 (New Comer was right) when I got to shoot it. It feels very off balance to me. The M8 shot beautifully, but I'm concerned about the squeeze cocker. There's around 10lbs of force necessary to hold that thing back which is far more than is necessary to hold the gun properly. It seems too easy to draw the gun and "click" I'm holding it at 8lbs instead of 10. Too bad.
 
I've seen Springfield loaded 9mm in a couple of shops.

As for the P7, it does take more than just a few rounds to get use to. If you plan to use it for carry, you need to do some training with it so that its manual of arms become 2nd nature.
 
HS2000/Springfield XD

I've had a HS for nearly a year and it was the best $259 I've ever spent. True SA, polymer frame 4" barrel, easy take down and very accurate--a lot like a Sig 225 but lighter(22oz.) but carries 10+1 rounds.

The HS models are just about gone but the XD is out for around $399. A lot of fun to shoot and comes with extra features(loaded chamber/cocked striker indicators,grip safety, trigger safety) .
 
Yep, contrary to popular opinion, Browning is still importing NIB BHPs. But they are kind of rare. I bought one this summer for $550. Good gun.
 
Mikul-- There's around 10lbs of force necessary to hold that thing back which is far more than is necessary to hold the gun properly. It seems too easy to draw the gun and "click" I'm holding it at 8lbs instead of 10. Too bad.


That's another beautiful thing about the mechanism. Suppose you pull the trigger before the gun is fully cocked. Nothing happens, right? All you need to do is hold the trigger down while you finish squeezing the gun. It will fire when the cocker is fully engaged. HK calls this "double action" firing of the P7.

As far as getting used to the manual of arms, I believe people WAY over dramatize that. You pick up the gun, get a firm grip and pull the trigger. BANG. It's as simple as a revolver. :cool:
 
The Browning HiPower has a magazine interlock, which means that if you have a round chambered and drop the mag, the gun cannot be fired. Many BHP owners, myself included, don't like the interlock in principle, plus most agree that the interlock affects the trigger pull and the ability of the mag to drop free.

DISCLAIMER: I AM NOT ADVOCATING REMOVING OR DEACTIVATING ANY SAFETY DEVICE!!!!

That said, it is relatively easy to remove the mag interlock. If you have a punch and a hammer and can field strip a gun, you can remove the interlock. I did, and the trigger pull improved and the mags drop free better than they did (this varies from gun to gun, and mag to mag).

Other than that, the manual of arms on a BHP is the same as that of a 1911.
 
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