Which Large Frame S&W??

Mike, you are right

I stand corrected, and I should have known better . . . the Model 1917 in .45 ACP was about twenty years before the introduction of the .357 magnum.

Thanks -- Roy
 
The 27 is just too much gun for a .357, imho. There is a whole lot of extra metal that just doesn't need to be there. Like a Cadillac with a Vega engine.
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Quite the contrary! Shooting the standard velocity 38's through my "28" allows me very quick recovery time, and the mass of the N-frame cylinder rolls those puppy's through at a snappy rate.
 
OK, small bore/big frame fans... I was jes stating my personal preference.

We all have the right to CHOICE and my choice is to rejoice that I have such friends on the net that I can politely disagree with about my favorite subject: girls, er, guns!!

I am sorta wimpy on the .357 Magnum. I jes shoot factory 158 grain magnums in my, um, J-frame!! ;)
 
I wish I had some more of my original Winchester .357 Mag. (circa 1940) ammo that I could send you for your J frame, BigG.

Of course you'd likely have to look around and find your gun, and hand, after every shot...

I chronographed this stuff some years ago out of a 6" Model 28.

158-gr. bullet moving at just shy of 1,700 fps -- out of a Six Inch tube!

8 3/8 probably would have gone close to 1,800 fps.

That's over 1,000 foot pounds of energy from a .357 Mag.

Today's load books don't even come close to that.

Some of my load books from the 1940s and 50s, though, do.
 
Hell, even the Remington JSP loads I bought in the 70's seemed hotter than current factory ammo. Maybe that's just selective memory :)
 
Used handguns in Calif . are getting harder to find , Probably because the laws on purchasing are changing in 2003.More red tape and a couple of hoops to jump through.:rolleyes:
 
RDog, the loads today aren't hotter, it's just that back in the 70's, our hearing was better:D

Mike, those velocities are just eye-popping!!! Reckon what sort of chamber pressures they run up? I can see it now, holding a 12 oz revo, smoke issuing from the muzzle, wondering whatinthehell just happened....
 
Hutch,

I don't want to even try to guess what kind of pressures those loads were generating.

I do know that extraction was NOT difficult, however. A tiny bit sticky, but nothing to write home about.
 
Those old loads Mike mentioned were the ones that gave the 357 S&W Magnum the reputation that it could crack an engine block. No thanks, Mike, I don't want any for my J-frame. I may be crazy but that sounds stupid!:eek:
 
Let's just say that those loads were a handful in a 6" Model 28, BigG.

One hell of a lot "snappier" than just about any .44 Mag. load I've ever fired.
 
Yes, .44 mag loads aren't as hot as they used to be, either.:(

Targetmasters in Milpitas has a 4" 610, for you folks up in the Bay Area. Expect to pay more for it than a .44:(

I think the rise of snubnosed small frame revos in .357 (let alone superlight framed guns) is one reason why they don't load 'em like they used to.:eek:

When you can find one, the 41 mag in the M57 is also a solid performer. You have to like your guns a little unusual, though:D
 
I've got a 58 in .41 Mag.

Since it was introduced so late, 1964, I don't think the .41 Mag. has suffered as much as some of the other magnum loads from downloading.

Remington's 210-gr. JSP feels to me much the same as some late 1960s vintage 210-gr. JSP that I've fired.
 
.41 Mag is a great round. I thank all those on this board who encouraged me to pick up my Mod 57. Wonderful gun. Haven't shot any 210 JSP's tho', the 175 Win STHP make a very nice PD load and aren't at all punishing.
 
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