Where Has All the Ammo Gone?

I was just reading the social security office also placed a order for ammo .
The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.
 
Well, if I were a corrupt gub'mint official looking for a way to launder money from the public coffers to my pocket, what better way than via ammunition?

You buy a bunch for "training", gin up a bunch of false invoices via a newly incorporated PO box, gin up a zillion copies of false training records, kick back ten percent to your equally corrupt masters, and cash the checks. Maybe even have a few actual deliveries which you can part out to your own minions for selling at gun show prices.

On orders that large, the opportunities for graft are huge. With the "freedom of the press" now equating to playing three monkeys, even if it were noticed it would go mostly undocumented.

And to pay for it all the Federal Reserve just keeps creating money out of thin air.

It is certainly at least equally as likely as the gub'mint stocking up to wage war on the populace.

lol
 
Reality check - TX isn't leaving the union, steer away from politics.

The storage is due to hoarders and flippers camping outside the stores.
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Who knows about the first one, time will tell.

The second one, I absolutely agree with. Unfortunately it will take the gun hobbyists to stop buying it at inflated prices to stop the flippers. Hoarders? I think lots are turning into hoarders and unfortunately, I don't see how many of us won't load up when the shelves get restocked again.

Local Academy this morning

40
45
556

in stock a few hours after store opened

9mm (sold out immediately, people are getting there an hour before it opens to buy what they can)

22LR What's that?
 
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Well on a mathmatical basis demand is finite. It will decrease, as it has before, and availability will increase.

The new buyers will slow down.
The hoarders will run out of money to buy rounds.
Supplies will increase.

Personally I stil think this will start to ease in June/July. Personally it will ease for me regardless after June until October. Summer temperatures in Central Texas limit shooting, so as to avoid not dying from the heat. :eek:
 
Some forum members have boasted over 20k of ammo; at first I thought 5k rounds was excessive before. Now 20k and up is the norm esp if you add 22lr to that amount. These hoarders/preppers who bought countless rounds of ammo before it dried up in January is definitely a cause for the shortage we currently have.
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I'm not a hoarder or a prepper, but I'm a guy with about 25,000 rounds of various calibers with almost half being .22lr. I've been buying for several years because I realized a long time ago that ammo isn't ever going to get cheaper. I bought Federal bulk .22 for $12 a brick a few years ago and now look at it. I bought WWB 100 round boxes of 9mm for $12 a box also and now look at it. I don't feel bad at all for having what I have. I've never wiped out anyone's inventory when I buy, I just add to my stash as I can.
 
Most people with thousands of rounds of ammo didn't just buy it all at once after the election. They've been working on it for years. Now their just like everyone else who is trying to get what they can while they can.

This is the second crunch and I think it will ease up eventually. Hopefully the third time around we won't have so many of these threads.
 
well if your dealing about walmart, dont expect ammunition to come in for another 7 weeks. were now told its due to the latest government contract for 16-20 million rounds of ammunition from the civilian factories.

why else would the government buy up sooooo much ammunition when the demand is so great?

disarmament
 
This is a dumb question but are any of the major ammo makers publicly traded? Perhaps a quarterly report would shed some light on how much is being produced.
 
Just to make this perfectly clear, while the government agencies are buying ammo in bulk amounts, this is a perfectly normal thing. They aren't receiving the large number of rounds all at once, it is a contract that spans over time so that they can guarantee a certain price, consistency, and a steady stream of munitions. Its simply being noticed more because of people panicking.

They also buy almost everything else in bulk, like weapons, food, toilet paper, medical supplies, etc.

The current shortage is because a large amount of people are scared about the potential bans and control laws. Hoarding and/or prepping is definitely a problem as well. New gun owners are likely a contributing factor here too.
 
Thought I would jump in here and post my findings. I am a programmer and have a 35 min drive to my office. There are 3 walmarts on my way to work so if I leave the house 30 minute early I can hit all 3 and still be in the office @8. I have found one gets ammo on Tues. night and the other 2 get it on wednesday night so if I am there @ a little before 7 on those next days you can find what you need. This week all had 100 round target FMJ 9mm Win so 3 stops x 3 boxes each = 900. Tried call it a even 1000 day I went back about 9am to the closest one and 30 boxes were all gone. Week before it was SKS food hunt with good results. Week before that it was 22lr and yes there is Hording around here too and a lot of re-selling I am out of the game with 1000 of each cal. A big 0 at BassPros and Sportmans wharehouse constantly. I did not stock up before the election but should have I was busy programming all of the new regs. and taxes into our systems this guy wants to know where every penny is going.
 
For the most part, you need to be lucky

My wife and I are staying in a hotel a few mile down the road from Cabelas so I went there around noon and the place was mobbed. Super crowded around the the handgun display cases so I checked out the ammo section and really not much, a little 9mm, 38s, .357mag and lots of shotgun and rifle calibers (no .223/5.56) so I just browsed a bit and did find a 35 capacity magazine for my S&W 15-22.
After dinner I felt like going back and looking at the handgun selection. they close at 9:00 and it was around 7:40 so I figured there would not be many customer crowding around the display cases like earlier in the day.
I walked by the ammo section on the way to the gun section and I noticed they were stocking the shelves in the rifle caliber section and lo and behold, there were dozens and dozens of 20 count boxes of PMC bronze .223 and 5.56! The price was not marked so I asked the associate how much they were per box and he told me they were $9.99. I grabbed 4 boxes and went to the gun section to see about a .22 revolver.
When I checked out, they only charged me $8.99 per box, not $9.99!:D I guess they must not have changed the price in the system yet.
 
I stopped at the Wal-Mart in the booming metropolis of Hazelhurst on my way home from drill today, and low and behold, they had a fair assortment of ammo, including .45 and .380, the .380 being Tula, but that being said, I was glad to see some, because I had bought all the .380 my local wal-mart had shortly after Christmas.

My thinking is that since I'm out of pistol primers, my sister, who has decided she likes to shoot "her" gun, can burn through that Tula stuff for as long as I can find it.

Good deal.
 
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