Where do you rank gun issues in the mix taken into account for voting?

Top of the list. The second amendment is the one that guarantees all the rest. If the rest of them are taken away, the second provides the means to get them back.

Soap box, ballot box, jury box, cartridge box.

It's also legislating my right to self-defense and survival in the event of an attempted crime or a disaster, so damned right it's important.

Why would I vote for anyone who would tell me "You cannot defend yourself from someone trying to kill you. We want to take away your effective tool of defense."...?
 
im not a very religious person but i do believe i will go to hell if i support any kind of abortion in any way. i do support the death penalty. its not much of a political issue to me though cause if someone MURDERS one of my family members i'll execute them myself.

Oxymoronic?
 
Top of the list. The second amendment is the one that guarantees all the rest. If the rest of them are taken away, the second provides the means to get them back.
Not necessarily. How is your gun going to get you back your 4th and 5th when a swat teams busts in for no reason? How are you going to get your message across that your rights are being taken away when there is no free speech or free press?
 
I'm probably the minority, but my list of issues for elections are:

1. Illegal aliens and immigration
2. Abortion
3. Gun rights
 
This is a question I cannot answer. I can think in terms of which issues I cannot concede, RKBA being one of them. Another one at the top of the list would be the type of Supreme Court Justices I could expect to be nominated. I don't think in terms of stacking the Court in favor of overturning or supporting something specific. I certainly would like to see a good gun case be granted cert and a fair ruling. I just want them to know their place and interpret the Constitution as it reads. Being young enough to handle a few more cases would be nice as well.
 
Nobody gets my vote unless they are pro-gun. Not only that; but they need to have actions to back up the words... voting to ban every form of centerfire ammo out there, voting to disband CMP, and then having your picture taken "hunting" with a shotgun that you voted to ban earlier in the year while you talk about how you support the Second Amendment and "common sense" restrictions is a loser to me.

Here is my perspective. I don't go around threatening people or contributing to firearm crime. Not only that but I have a decently long history of peaceable firearms ownership now. So when you tell me you want ME disarmed or restricted, I wonder what it is you plan to do to me that you are afraid that I have firearms?

If you are wrong on all the other issues; but right on firearms, you stand a decent chance of winning my vote as long as all the other candidates are wrong on firearms. I define "wrong" as advocating or accepting any additional restrictions. Anybody actually willing to advocate removing restrictions goes way up in my estimation, even if they may not be ideal on other issues.
 
2A is the most important issue to me although definitely not the only issue. A candidate's position on gun control is a litmus test for me; If they don't trust me, I don't trust them. Pretty simple I think.
 
Paladin7 said:
I've actually found that the 2A issue is a fairly good barometer for me... If a candidate is against our rights to own a firearem in any way, it is usually a sign of something very wrong with his/her ideas about our Constitution.

What he said is a far better description of how I feel than how I posted! THanks for the great words!
 
In other words, if a politician is right, in your view, on all the issues, but wants to impose greater restrictions on guns, would you not vote for them?

Yes, I would most likely not vote for them.

On the other hand, if you don't like someone on other issues, would you cast a vote for them if they are the sole candidate that seeks to protect your rights in re guns?

No, I would most likely not.

It may sound like an attorney giving you the runaround answer, but I honestly tried to answer in a yes/no fashion. There are stipulations in each question you asked. People can call all the names they want at me, but my key issues to get my vote are Pro-Life, Pro-Gun, and Pro-Preservation of the Constitution. One may say that I'm a hypocrite on saying the third and turn around and not support gay marriage, but I don't think it was ever intended to be an issue of concern. On that, I don't actively place the issue on the highest priority list, but it is a consideration if candidates take similar stances on my key issues. However, politics have become so polarized, I don't think that will ever happen again in my lifetime.
 
Guns are definitely the most important issue to me. From a practical standpoint, we have no rights at all without the ability to back up those rights with force, and that requires guns (primarily rifles). All authority is ultimately based on force -- not votes, law, popular opinion, morality, or ethics. The only true laws are the laws of physics -- the government can break its own laws any time it pleases. If our government has all the guns, all the heavy body armor, and all the night vision equipment, then it can do whatever it pleases in spite of any votes, protests, complaining or wailing. We'll have to obey like dogs -- period.

Being pro-gun (and that doesn't mean "supporting the rights of hunters and target shooters") is necessary but not sufficient to get my vote. I won't vote for any politician who blatantly opposes the Constitution in any way, whether it's on the issue of guns, free speech, warrantless wiretaps/searches, or anything else. That means I won't vote for 99% of politicians. The only politician I currently like is Ron Paul, who is more pro-gun and pro-Constitution than any other politician I've ever heard of.


Redworm said:
How is your gun going to get you back your 4th and 5th when a swat teams busts in for no reason?
The SWAT team would be very foolish to bust in your door for no reason if you have a rifle powerful enough to penetrate most of their armor, a gas mask, and a willingness to die rather than give up your rights. They'd almost certainly win the confrontation in the end, but if one of them got killed or lost a limb, it would give the others something to ponder before assaulting another citizen without just cause. A single resister might only make a statement and lose everything (but retain his dignity) by fighting back. But if enough people fight back, the government's thugs will have to back off.

Besides, if it gets to the point where that sort of thing is happening (e.g., political dissidents are being rounded up), then those who would resist should not be sitting around their homes waiting to be surrounded anyway.
 
The 2A is the deal breaker, And I don't mean somebody that says they are for "Hunters" rights, it has to be all gun right including Concealed carry. But I think Illegal Immigration is a very close second, if Congress passes the "Comprehensive Immigration Plan" I won't vote for anybody that voted for it period. I think it will be revolution time and vote them all out!!!!
 
My two issues are guns and taxes.

Guns are my litmous test, if you can pass that we can negotiate on everything else.
 
very simple 2A is number 1 after that
National Defense.
less Gov
Less Tax
the rest is all moral issues which I dont give a crap about.
 
Suppoprting not only the second amendment, but the entire Bill of Rights, is necessary but not sufficient. As others, I use support for the RKBA as a Bellwether for other candidate positions.

TC
 
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