when can you call them out?

Funny, one uncle was at Pearl Harbor during the attack and then across the Pacific. Another was at the Battle of the Bulge. He was surrounded and had to climb a big tree of avoid Germans who were killing prisoners. They never crowed about their experiences.

The one uncle who bragged about his scars in the WWII, got them in Oklahoma from a bleeding ulcer operation. True he almost died and the family had to take the bus to him. Also, he was also kidding about how he got them and we knew it. It was a family joke.
 
I wouldn't call him out, but that's not my style. If it's bothering you that much, call him out by asking a few simple questions. Specifically asking him the name of the places that he got the degrees from would be my first.
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That would be my method. Act interested and act like you believe him, and keep asking questions about specifics and watch him squirm. As he becomes uncomfortable answering questions, he will leave YOU alone.

As what the specific degrees are, and if they are two year or 4 year degrees, and how you get 5 two year degrees in 6 months, stuff like that. I especially like asking ignorant technical questions such as "what kind of speedloader do you use in your PPK", and "does your snubby shoot .38 S&W or is it a special?" "Is that one of those kind you can also shoot 9mm in?"
 
In most areas of life, I agree with this sentiment. When those 'shortcomings' involve diminishing or insulting the service of people who voluntarily went down a hard road in service of their countrymen, I can't say that I do.
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I didn't see anything in the original post to indicate that was going on.
 
I am usually pretty tolerant of fools.

But when a fellow told me had a Belgium Browning Sweet Sixteen in 12 gauge, I could not let that one pass.
 
oh hes expanded into being ex military as well. Annoying the crap out of me. Finally got a reply back from his college. The degrees dont exist.

Even on the lowest end of the spectrum, he did in 3.5 years what the college itself says would require about 5 to do.
 
I did a little digging on terminology

"See that scar on my ribcage? Thats where I took a bayonet from Osama Bin Laden. He tried to kill me, but he couldn't because I love freedom so much..."


I found the definitions below in a google search very informative:


Compulsive Liar

A compulsive liar is defined as someone who lies out of habit. Lying is their normal and reflexive way of responding to questions. Compulsive liars bend the truth about everything, large and small. For a compulsive liar, telling the truth is very awkward and uncomfortable while lying feels right. Compulsive lying is usually thought to develop in early childhood, due to being placed in an environment where lying was necessary. For the most part, compulsive liars are not overly manipulative and cunning (unlike sociopaths), rather they simply lie out of habit - an automatic response which is hard to break and one that takes its toll on a relationship (see, how to cope with a compulsive liar).

A Sociopath

A sociopath is typically defined as someone who lies incessantly to get their way and does so with little concern for others. A sociopath is often goal-oriented (i.e., lying is focused - it is done to get one's way). Sociopaths have little regard or respect for the rights and feelings of others. Sociopaths are often charming and charismatic, but they use their talented social skills in manipulative and self-centered ways (see, lovefraud, for more on sociopaths).


I don't know which one we're dealing with. It seems that there is a goal to the lying: to seem like a big-shot weapons master, war hero, which would make them sociopaths. What I do know is if you call out a liar; expect them to tell more lies.
 
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All the world's a stage, and all the men and women merely players: they have their exits and their entrances; and one man in his time plays many parts, his acts being seven ages. -- William Shakespeare
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Teller of tall tales abound. I respects me a good liar. If he's talking hunting or fishing stories.

Now when they lie about other day to day things, I then typically do not believe a single word of what they say... which may or may not have repercussions down the road, given future interaction. Give them enough rope, they'll typically hang themselves sooner or later.

Then again, some people are good actors. Liars get elected to office all the time. Repeatedly.

I'd like to get me a degree or four on combat shooting skills, but I'm too old for that nowadays. Call him out? I'd just HAVE to know which schools and professors names... for future reference of course. So I'd simply HAVE to ask... :rolleyes:

...but never forget Will's quote.
 
Hes going to be doing the state police academy thing soon. Claims to have 5 "degrees" in combat handguns from an actual college.
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I suspect they'll soon discover his weaknesses and wash him out if he is mentally substandard or has noticeable personality issues, particularly lying or "big talking" bs'er.

Bachelor of Science in Firearms... funny.
Although, I could see a university offering a firearm design course, as an elective within their Metallurgy or Engineering programs.
 
Thanks Tom Servo

The link you posted was something I was looking for. Links to other good pages.

I served 24 years in the military, was shot at a few times, but was never in combat. I retrained after 16 years to become the head chef, chief bottle washer and worked in mortuary affairs.

People who embellish their stories are nothing new, but people claiming to be soldiers, sailors, airmen or marines really bother me.
 
I am not aware of any college offering degrees in combat handguns.
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There's an unaccredited private college in Arizona that offers online classes in just about everything -- I've seen it mentioned quite a few times regarding gunsmithing. I can't remember the name... "Phoenix State University" maybe? (NOT University of Phoenix or Arizona State)

They are probably not the only one.
 
I recall a fun guy. I was taking my CHL test and some guy in tac clothes wandered over and said that I shot too well. I should miss some. Now, missing in the old TX DPS test took some talent. He said that if I went to court, they would ask why with my record (haha), I didn't shoot them in the knees. He new this because he was .... da DAH - a sniper!!

On another test day, there was a gaggle of folks in FBI jackets practicing. They had tac gear and gave me the warrior nod as I was embedded in the usual menagerie of folks talking the CHL test. I must have looked awesome in my youth. Another - haha. :D
 
Yep, John Holschen discussed it in Insights class. When we warriors exchange visual cues of steely eyed dealers of death and give a curt nod. Note you give a nod down because that acknowledges warrior worthiness. A nod up was seen as disrespectful and might start a dominance conflict.

In my youth, I took my wife to the mall in a semibad area. She was looking at shoes. I didn't want to go into the store (boring) and leaned against an outside pillar. I still had my sunglasses on and a group of young toughs (what do I know, walked by). I caught them in my visual scan and watched them. One looked at me and made the peace sign. Ahhh - the fantasy in my mind. Intimidating or making fun - who is to know.

Of course, you don't want direct glares - just a passing scan as you don't want to give a real challenge - where I would have to run away as the result. :D
 
One of the many fun things I do is read, . . . and for an old geezer, . . . I remember a lot (that may change some day :eek:).

Whenever I get to smelling the story I'm hearing, . . . I can usually slip it off to something I DO know about, . . . slide a little challenge in there, . . . drop a statistic or something.

I've outed more posers this way than I care to remember, . . . and in most cases, I just mosey on my way, . . . knowing I left him enough info that if he looks at it or looks it up, . . . he'll know he just got made.

Sometimes they are civil the next time, . . . sometimes they avoid me, . . .

But the ones that really burn my gizzard are the ones who were on seal team 6 in Vietnam, . . . got their CMH in Kuwait, . . . 2 Silver stars in Grenada, . . . and directed the Cobra Chopper fire in Panama. Those, . . . I burn just for the pleasure of seeing their smile wave bye bye.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
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