Wheeler Engineering Professional Reticle Leveling System - Anybody use one?

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aarondhgraham

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Wheeler Engineering Professional Reticle Leveling System - Anybody use one?

I played Musical Scopes with nine of my rifles a few weeks back,,,
Normally I take my scoped rifles to The Evil Pawn Shop Guy,,,
He only charges $10.00 to level & bore sight a gun.

But I'm thinking of buying this instead so I can do it myself.

Is this a worthwhile product?


Wheeler Engineering Professional Reticle Leveling System

Aarond

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That system is reliant on the reticle being in perfect alignment with the turrets, pretty common for them to be slightly misaligned.
 
My buddy likes his !!!

Wheeler Engineering Professional Reticle Leveling System - Anybody use one?
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A past hunting buddy and now bench-shooter, demonstrated it and swears but it. Using his rifle, I compared it to the old-fashion method and "I" would say that his was off, just a little. You really don't have to buy one to get a quality mount but if one finds it easier to use and keep the confidence, why not. ...... :)

I do not level the scope to the rifle but instead, level the reticles to the rifle. I basically use two small bubble levels and plumb-bob to set up. ..... :)

Be Safe !!!
 
Gentlemen,,,
Thanks for the replies.

As usual though I'm getting ratings from wonderful to worthless,,,
This is across three forums I have this posted to.

There doesn't seem to be a solid consensus.

So I did what I should have done in the first place,,,
I called my guy and asked what he uses,,,
Because his results are great.

He uses a gun vise, a torpedo level, and a small line level,,,
But better yet he's offered to show me how to do it.

So I think I'll save my Cabela Bucks for the time being,,,
I can always order it later if I feel the need.

Thanks for your help my friends,,,

Aarond

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Good move !!!

So I think I'll save my Cabela Bucks for the time being,,,
I can always order it later if I feel the need.
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Great idea as I have been using the 2-Levels and plumb-line method, Long before the Wheeler. ..... ;)

Be Safe !!!
 
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What do you do if the reticle elevation and windage axes are a degree or more misaligned with the adjustment knob axes?
 
At some point, using this method, you have to use a plumb line or a leveled target to get the reticle perfectly vertical.
 
What do you do if the reticle elevation and windage axes are a degree or more misaligned with the adjustment knob axes?
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Not clear to me what you are asking. Are you talking the internal adjustments of the scope are not "in tune" with the turrets--adjustment knob do you mean turret(s)? Or are you talking the wheeler tool? Sorry, not being snarky--just can't tell what you mean.;)
 
I use the Wheeler system. Works great. But if I could pay a gunsmith $10 to do it plus bore sight the rifle/AR, I'd go that route. But it would cost way more than $10 in my area. Plus they'd probably keep the rifle/AR for more than a month before doing the work.
 
i have used it more than a few times. what i do is put the small level on the bottom half of the ring so i can use the barrel level to level the gun. then i put the scope on and level off the turret. you would be amazed that if you are not VERY carefull the scope with turn just from the pressure of the clamping force when you tighten down the rings. sometimes it takes me a few trys
 
I have one, I love it. As some have mentioned its not a perfect system, but it is pretty darn close. I had bought it sooner, money well spent!
 
I think I get what Bart is saying. The ideal would be a reference based on the force of gravity.like a plumb line ,or water level,or what have you.

And then ,gun leveled in a vise,maybe per the receiver rails, You'd run the sights through full traverse,W and E, to align the sight adjustment travel to the gravty references (plumb line).

I don't doubt thats correct for World Class Palma shooting.

For myself,I don't have an issue with removing the stock,and setting the receiver level in a vise,then hanging a plumb line to align the vertical cross hair
 
Nathan said:
At some point, using this method, you have to use a plumb line or a leveled target to get the reticle perfectly vertical.
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Yes, gadgets will get you close but if you want it exact you have to shoot and verify that when you crank up 30 moa the impact is exactly vertical to the hole made a 0 Moa. A few pages of target dots on 8.5 x 11 paper staples edge-to-edge on a target frame, and a plumb-bob, are all you need.

What is required is that the reticle be pointed at the exact center of the bore. Slight dimensional errors in manufacturing the rifle, scope and/or the rings will be carried through with any of the gadgets. I get it close by eyeballing it, then shoot 0 / 30 moa test at 50 or 100 yards and rotate the scope in the rings as needed to correct any divergence.
 
I did try the vertical test after using the Wheeler kit,,,
I shot a target at 50, 100, and 200 yards.

There is a little bit (less than an inch) of variance at 200 yards,,,
But that could easily be my own inaccuracy.

Between 50 and 100 yards I can't see any lateral shift at all.

I'm happy with the Wheeler kit.

Aarond

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what eight said,,,that is for really trueing the scope

but for most of us the line on the wall,,,plum bob,,or even the wheeler set

i have the wheeler set,,,i like it and it does seem to work really well for me,,,and i always check it against my vertical line on the wall with a flash light,,,,i think what i like about the wheeler kit is the clamp on level that goes on the barrel,,,once you get the rifle level,,,you can move it around or if it moves you know it,,,and you dont have to relevel the rifle

also i use the bottom flat of the scope,,,not the turret ,,,,that seem to get me pretty dang close to true,,,,

but if you want it as close as you can get it,,,,you need to shoot a vertical line like eight said

my .02
ocharry
 
And how do you verify centerline of your scope is aligned with centerline of your bore (without hanging a line some distance from the scope)?:D
 
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