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Tons of data on copycat suicides. The school shootings are in a large part similar.

Check out Berkowitz's 1993 book on Aggressive Behavior.

Wait - the UN is making me type this by
showing me video tapes of Rosie O'Donnell in that S&M costume she wore in the movie with Dan Ackroyd. AHHHHHRRRGGGHHH.

Really, don't go off the deep end on this.
We look really silly. We have a bad enough image problem sometimes. Chill out, have a Shiner and some BBQ.
 
Glenn:

FWIW I'd never say anything like that anywhere where I think it would have a negative effect on our rep. and I don't usually bring it up, thats why I said hypothetical in bold.( I doubt there are a lot of anti lurkers here )

Anyway I hope your satisfied, I'll have nightmares for weeks from the Rosie / S&M description......you're not one of THEM are you ??!!!

....Just kidding

I also can't spell evidently or I wouldn't have to edit, probably the fault of the ever present public school conspiracy.



[This message has been edited by scud (edited June 01, 2000).]
 
Dear Christina,
My handle is HARDBALL. I used to live in Nashville,TN where I was a investigator/researcher with "THE PHOENIX FOUNDATION". We did a weekly cable (community access) T.V. show called "THE OMEGA REPORT" which showed in about six States. This question you posted is near and dear to my heart. I do believe that many of the "High Profile" shooting are a result of "Pavlov" style mind control. What better way to "turn the America people off to fire arms". Mind control experiments have been going on in this Country and Russia for some seventy years! I truly believe that there is some connection! A few years ago in Japan,a Pokeman cartoon was shown. One of the toons had red strobing/flashing eyes and I am told that something like 800 kids went in convulsions! I think this is no accident! A combo of drugs,hypnosis,micro chip inplants,video games,music,electric magnetic impulses,could all play a part. Also there has been a lot of High Profile crimes where the Perp was Military. i.e. Lee Harvy,Tim McVeigh,Charles Whitman,... also how about the guy who shot up the White House a few years back? Was he not Military? How about the guy who stole a tank in San Diego? Was he not Military? I'm not sure about the guy who crashed the small plane into the White House. I have seen tapes of Mind Control experiments using Electric Magnetic waves to really mess with the brain and induce fear. How many people are discribed as being Robots? In the NY subway shooting,if you research hard,you will find that there is testimony by a witness who was sitting next to a man on the train who took out of his pocket a remote control type of device and said to him,"Watch this"...Pushing the button,a man up front sprang up from his seat and started shooting people. This is in the court records!There was a little piece in the paper that talk about this.If you care to do some research,search Janet Morris. She is a doctor and author who really knows about the CIA mind control experiments. In fact, she believes that soon the military will soon be able to induce brain chemical changes over entire populations of people. I also suggest you check out WWW.TENNTIMES.ORG and check out "THE OMEGA REPORT". One of the things I am very good at is my researching subliminals in T.V. and film.

In fact,the "SPOTLIGHT" newspaper a few years ago was nice enought to run some of my work. It was a photo I took of a subliminal message in a MTV commerical for "ROCK THE VOTE". The commerical used a method to display the phrase:"GUN CONTROL JOBS". This kind of mind control happens every time you watch T.V. I hope to show some of my latest work on the net in the future. I fear that we have only begun to see what is in store for us. You must look at the "TIMING" of when these events happen. I predict a "MAJOR EVENT" by November. I pray to God I hope I'm wrong. If you haven't seen "THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE" rent it! also "THE PARALLAX VIEW","WAG THE DOG", "NETWORK","A CLOCKWORK ORANGE","CONSPIRACY THEORY"
These films will give you a taste of this subject. You are not alone in this line of thinking. HARDBALL
 
There's no conspiracy.

This is just the inevitable result of the evolution of politically and socially sanctioned mental illness.

When brats beget children, the children inherit all the sickness of their parents, and we're into a second generation of this now.

Of course homicidal psychotic breaks will increase exponentially.
 
No conspiracy--just opportunism. Children's blood is the anti's most effective image. One supposes they rejoice when the media gleefully publishes the news of the latest firearm tragedy. If only they took as much pleasure in encouraging virtues in our youths as they do in dancing in their blood.
 
Christina,
Go to www.newsmax.com
About half way down on the left,click on
"Police find video games... This is about the most recent School shooting in FL as well as Violent Video games found in the homes of most all school shooters! You must read this!
 
What am I today? The Academic Urban Myth Basher. Hardball, I know this stuff. There is no such technology. There are people who believe there is - they are wrong and need to deal with their beliefs.

As far as the Pokemon deal. Photic Driven Epilepsy - known for years before video games.
Induced by flickering lights inducing abnormal firing waves in the visual cortex.

It is a known medical problem. Some people get it if they drive past a set of telephone poles with a setting sun at the right speed.

For God's Sake, Folks - this day, we have lots of folks going into Psychological Fantasy Land.

You are not making us look good.
 
Glen, look it was just a theory. I mean, you never know really. Do we really no for sure what our government is capable of? I mean, think about it, the CIA "Central INTELLEGENCE (spelling????? :confused :) Agency" they are smart. So, it's not making us look bad, if it is all true then wouldn't we look nieve (again Spelling :confused :)?
I just thought it would be a neat subject to get people's thoughts. And thank you for your opinion.
 
We don't need vast, far-reaching conspiracies.
We're doing it to ourselves.

We have a culture that praises the amoral constantly, a culture in which a parents love for their children is provided by over-worked faceless people at a day-care, and a Media which glorifies, scrutinizes and repeats the results of school shootings ad nauseum.

Children need attention. That's a 'duh' going back several hundred thousand years. For some children, any attention is better than no attention.

A shooting at a school guarantees attention.

I'll bet this most recent kid is getting more personal attention from his parents now, than the last several years combined.

:(
LawDog
 
Well, "Christina," I see you're up late again! :D Well, so am I. I'll give you my .02...

I don't think it's a organized conspiracy, but rather, as others have said, a result of the gubmint/media propaganda machine. The media makes it seem as if there's "blood flowing in the streets" when really violent crime is going down, and has been. They've got a mission (to disarm us) and they'll squash whoever gets in their way...

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"At last we shall reveal ourselves to the Gun-Grabbers, at last we shall have revenge at The TFL End of Summer Meet on August 12 & 13, 2000..."
 
Christina--all I know is this:
Since the "Golden Age of Klintoon" ( aka, the Golden Age of Beelzebubba ):
I have never seen so many "Man with a Gun" stories...
I have never seen so many "Airplanes fall out of the sky" stories...
What does it mean??? Conspiracy? Coincidence? Serindipity? Beats me--but there it is...

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"live free or die trying..."
 
Dear Mr. Meyers,
Sir,in regards to you statement posted above, is obvious that you do not know this stuff. This techology (and conditioning) does indeed exist. If you care to read up on the subject, may I suggest "Operation Mind Control" #1+#2 by Wakter Bowart,Journey into Madness(the true story of secret CIA mind control and medical abuse) by Gordon Thomas,"Bio_Medical Telemetry" by Dr.Sturat Mackey,"Physicl Control of the Mind" by Jose',M.R. Delgrado, "The Mind Stealers" by Samuel Chavkin,also check out Dr.Janet Morris. As far a Pokeman,I am well aware of Photic driven Epilepsy. I suspect there is something more happening. To deny this technology exist is to deny that the Feds used Mind Control on the folks at Waco! Do you deny this happened? Do you deny the existance of "Cybernetics"? I suggest you contact Mr.James L. Moore of the Phoenix Foundation as he is light years ahead of me on this subject. He can be reached at
OMEGAREPORT@MINDSPRING.COM
"The claimes of James L. Moore would sound fantastic were it not for the abundance of information to suport the possibility of their validity."(Walter Bowart in his book
"Operation Mind Control,p.76,Dell Pub.Co.,1978) HARDBALL
 
If you can explain to me how you can have focused, organized, far reaching propaganda on the TV, in the schools, in the medical feild etc. etc. and no conspiracy then I will gladly conceed defeat. If you cannot, us conspiracy types win :)



[This message has been edited by scud (edited June 02, 2000).]
 
Glenn,
I'm sorry that you feel that I should not express my HO on this topic as started by Christina. I guess that I should be like the politically correct Sheeple and just go with the flow,the "I don't want to rock the boat crowd". God forbid that I exercise my right to free speech and express my thoughts as I feel fit. If you don't agree with my thoughts,that is your right,however,don't suggest to me that I am not entitled to say and/or believe what I believe. Unless you are the "Thought Police",please don't insult those of us who believe that "things" are not necessarily what they seem to be.
HARDBALL
 
You can say what you want. Never said you shouldn't.

My point is that it is incorrect.

I also state that presentations of such conspiracy theories that have no basis in scientific fact do us no good.

It is an empirical question of whether mind control technology exists. It does not.
Don't believe me but I'm in the neuroscience and psychological fields. It doesn't exist.

I read the scientific literature and attend the cutting edge conferences in the field.
One can believe that secret stuff is out there. It isn't.

I would state that if one enters into a debate about the validity of a position based on the facts, too many folks think that one is trying to shut them up or take away their free speech rights. Not so. But claims must be based on results based on sound scientific principles and there are none for such processes as could mind control folks at Waco for instance.

Believe what you want.
 
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It is an empirical question of whether mind control technology exists. It does not.
Don't believe me but I'm in the neuroscience and psychological fields. It doesn't exist.
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Denial, Glenn?

(ducking and running)

Sorry, couldn't resist. :D

Ahem. Remember, folks, keep it civil. No need for nastiness.
 
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