Whats your Home Defense Shotgun?
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"Roach, slam firing is more show than a useful technique. Accuracy's out the window when you do it.
I've slammed a few different shotguns, including 37s. No real advantage exists over an interruptor equipped shotgun like and 870, 500 etc.
Go try it. After a time or two, you'll likely never do it again. "
Dave, I'm aware of what you're saying so far as there being no real advantage to the slam firing but I do see an advantage in familiarizing myself with the weapon and knowing how it operates under a variety of conditions. It seems like it would loose it's appeal fairly quick for sure but since it's something that I've yet to experience you bet your last bullet that I'm going to do just that when I get an opportunity. I'm sure it's no big deal but you know us men. We're going to do it simply because we can.
Roach
I've slammed a few different shotguns, including 37s. No real advantage exists over an interruptor equipped shotgun like and 870, 500 etc.
Go try it. After a time or two, you'll likely never do it again. "
Dave, I'm aware of what you're saying so far as there being no real advantage to the slam firing but I do see an advantage in familiarizing myself with the weapon and knowing how it operates under a variety of conditions. It seems like it would loose it's appeal fairly quick for sure but since it's something that I've yet to experience you bet your last bullet that I'm going to do just that when I get an opportunity. I'm sure it's no big deal but you know us men. We're going to do it simply because we can.
Roach
HD suite
Our alarm system: 14 lbs of yappy rat terrier
Top Row amplified muffs, S&W Model 19 4" (mine), S&W Model 10 2.5" (hers), tactical light
Middle: New Haven 600 AT (Mossberg 500) 12 GA, 20" chopper barrel (mine)
Bottom: Mossberg 835 with hard to find 18.5" barrel (hers)
If dog goes off, I put on muffs, take Model 19 and light, open BR door, check out to top of stairs; she gets Model 10, goes to closet and gets shotguns.
False alarm: I pet dog, we put away firearms, go back to bed.
Real thing: Retreat to bedroom, take my shotgun from wife, we hit monitored alarm (not the dog) and hunker down until help comes.
Our alarm system: 14 lbs of yappy rat terrier
Top Row amplified muffs, S&W Model 19 4" (mine), S&W Model 10 2.5" (hers), tactical light
Middle: New Haven 600 AT (Mossberg 500) 12 GA, 20" chopper barrel (mine)
Bottom: Mossberg 835 with hard to find 18.5" barrel (hers)
If dog goes off, I put on muffs, take Model 19 and light, open BR door, check out to top of stairs; she gets Model 10, goes to closet and gets shotguns.
False alarm: I pet dog, we put away firearms, go back to bed.
Real thing: Retreat to bedroom, take my shotgun from wife, we hit monitored alarm (not the dog) and hunker down until help comes.
motorhead0922
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dannyb,
+1 on the amped muffs. I gotta get some.
+1 on the amped muffs. I gotta get some.
TheKlawMan
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Clayman; I am anyathing but an expert on weapons, combat, or law enforcement, but I learned a little something in the Marines and while there are plenty of exeptions to any rule, I can't that "The best defence is an offence."
Also, you missed the part about a "good" offense being the best defense. Moreover, mu understanding is it is a lot more difficult to attack a position than to defend one.
My feeling is simple, and this should not be confused with an officer or soldiers task of clearing a building.
While the better military plans rely on intelligence, I wouldn't expect to have much if any on an uninvited guest. Is he alone, armed, on drugs and if so are they a type that will make him difficult to stop short of overwhelming force. Is his intent to rob or assault my family? For that matter, is it someone that knows the layout of my home and how to best assault it. For that matter it could be my son's Marine Corp buddie back from Afganistan with a buzz on who has simply wandered into my home in the middle of the night with no evil intent.
That is why my plan is to take up a defensive position from which to await LOE, in the case of an intruder.
Also, you missed the part about a "good" offense being the best defense. Moreover, mu understanding is it is a lot more difficult to attack a position than to defend one.
My feeling is simple, and this should not be confused with an officer or soldiers task of clearing a building.
While the better military plans rely on intelligence, I wouldn't expect to have much if any on an uninvited guest. Is he alone, armed, on drugs and if so are they a type that will make him difficult to stop short of overwhelming force. Is his intent to rob or assault my family? For that matter, is it someone that knows the layout of my home and how to best assault it. For that matter it could be my son's Marine Corp buddie back from Afganistan with a buzz on who has simply wandered into my home in the middle of the night with no evil intent.
That is why my plan is to take up a defensive position from which to await LOE, in the case of an intruder.
Black_Sheep
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Mossberg 500 "Watchdog" w/ TacStar pistol grip and 00 Buck...
870 12 gauge Express with a 20 inch Improved Cylinder Deer Sighted barrel.
Blackhawk shotgun sling that doubles as a bandolieer, 5 rounds of Winchester Military-grade 00 buck, five rounds of federal 00 buck, and 5 rounds of Winchester PDX-1, Cabela's Shotgun sleeve with five Federal three inch slugs.
Loaded with 4 Remington three-inch 00 buck in the tube. Chamber's clear and locked closed with the safety on, so a potential thief has to know how to work an 870 to cycle the action.
Blackhawk shotgun sling that doubles as a bandolieer, 5 rounds of Winchester Military-grade 00 buck, five rounds of federal 00 buck, and 5 rounds of Winchester PDX-1, Cabela's Shotgun sleeve with five Federal three inch slugs.
Loaded with 4 Remington three-inch 00 buck in the tube. Chamber's clear and locked closed with the safety on, so a potential thief has to know how to work an 870 to cycle the action.
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Quick Karl
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Benelli M1 Super 90 12ga 00Buck
Nuff said.
Nuff said.
wideglider03
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870 tactical magnum 7+1, 20" cyl, 12ga w/side saddle, low recoil slugs and #4 buck.
Johnny Falcon
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Ithaca SxS 16ga
Crazy Carl
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M590A1, 20"er. Didn't like the synthetic furniture (which the gun beat me up with) & snagged one of Havlin's last sets of the old style 500 wood sets. Promptly cut 1.5" off the stock & put on a Limbsaver & it couldn't fit or shoot better.
Stays stoked with Federal 00 "LE" with the Flite-control wads.
Stays stoked with Federal 00 "LE" with the Flite-control wads.
xMINORxTHREATx
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I normally don't like wood furniture unless its on newer shotguns, but WOW.
Crazy Carl, that is one pretty gun. Never seen, and probably never will see another wood stocked M590.
Crazy Carl, that is one pretty gun. Never seen, and probably never will see another wood stocked M590.
Achilles11B
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Nothing fancy for me, just a Mossberg 500 with 00 buckshot.
Spacecoast: said:
I own a Judge Ultra-Lite. I agree that the 45LC rounds are the prefered ammo for this gun in SD situations. I use Hornady 225 grain FTX jhp ammo. I also will alternate some Federal 000 buckshot when I think I'm going to carry it in the car since the buckshot is powerful enough to stop a car jacking & not travel past the threat as far as the 45lc would. 45LC alternated with 000 buckshot is an effective SD setup. (Birdshot would not be effective in my opinion unless it was a shot to the face from point blank range.) Yes I would rather have my 12 gauge or my Glock 21, but the Taurus Judge isn't the toy that some seem to think it is with the right ammo.
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I've got two:
-- Mossberg 500 12 ga w/20-inch barrel, w/compensated muzzle brake
-- Maverick 88 12 ga w/18.5-inch barrel, stock
Both are 5+1.
That said, I don't usually keep them "at the ready", but in the gun safe. My nightstand HD gun is whatever I carried that day, usually a CZ 75D PCR 9mm (14+1) or a CZ75BD 9mm (16+1).
-- Mossberg 500 12 ga w/20-inch barrel, w/compensated muzzle brake
-- Maverick 88 12 ga w/18.5-inch barrel, stock
Both are 5+1.
That said, I don't usually keep them "at the ready", but in the gun safe. My nightstand HD gun is whatever I carried that day, usually a CZ 75D PCR 9mm (14+1) or a CZ75BD 9mm (16+1).
Well I have a Remington 870 Express, and I bought a cheap barrel and cut it down to 18.5" and put a Hi-Viz sight on it. During August thru march though I keep the 28" barrel on it because that's the barrel I hunt with. I keep #4 buck in it regardless of what barrel is on there though.