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Art Eatman
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Getting away from microwaves and looking just at what happens when a primer goes off in a loaded cartridge outside the chamber of a rifle: A test of this was done a bunch of years ago.
A .30-'06 GI round was set on a piece of denim cloth atop a bar of soap. From an electric source, one wire was attached to the case; the other glued to the primer. A cardboard box was set over it as cover.
On with the juice! The primer ignited. The bullet appeared not to have moved as far as the side of the box; the case moved more. Unburned powder all around inside the box. A scorch on the cloth. A slight dent in the bar of soap, considered equivalent to a fairly minor bruise. (After all, the bullet moves maybe 3/8" and the pressure goes to zero.)
I think that what started it all was the question of "What if a round went off in your pocket?". I guess the answer might be, "Not deadly, but not fun."
FWIW, Art
A .30-'06 GI round was set on a piece of denim cloth atop a bar of soap. From an electric source, one wire was attached to the case; the other glued to the primer. A cardboard box was set over it as cover.
On with the juice! The primer ignited. The bullet appeared not to have moved as far as the side of the box; the case moved more. Unburned powder all around inside the box. A scorch on the cloth. A slight dent in the bar of soap, considered equivalent to a fairly minor bruise. (After all, the bullet moves maybe 3/8" and the pressure goes to zero.)
I think that what started it all was the question of "What if a round went off in your pocket?". I guess the answer might be, "Not deadly, but not fun."
FWIW, Art
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Matt VDW, you are being intentionally evil putting thoughts like that in folks' heads. 
Try this, too, while you're at it. Take an 8 1/2 x 11" piece of paper. Tear in half Place a shotgun shell of some kind on the edge of what would have been the left or right side of the paper. Then roll the paper around the shell and tape it securely so that the paper extends several times beyond the length of the shell, so that it is bottom heavy - it will come down like a lawn dart when thrown. Then use a small piece of duct tape to tape a steel BB directly under the bottom of the primer. Then throw up hard, high, and away over a hard surface and run for cover!
tackdriver
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When I lived in the freshman dorm here at school a guy stuck a fire extinguisher in the microwave. A friend found it and unplugged the microwave before it went off. The fire dept said that it could have taken off the entire corner of the building.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by buzz_knox:
I once stripped the insulation off an extension cord, wrapped the bare wire around a .22 LR and plugged it in (while lying behind a pile of bricks). The result: VERY loud explosion, blue flames about 15 feet tall, a complete absence of any casing fragments, and one burnt wall receptacle.
Hey, I was young, stupid, and trying to figure out how to make a detonator.[/quote]
I got the exact same effects when I wired up a 6 volt toy car motor and plugged it in the wall...except the 15 ft flame was a really cool purple
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
I once stripped the insulation off an extension cord, wrapped the bare wire around a .22 LR and plugged it in (while lying behind a pile of bricks). The result: VERY loud explosion, blue flames about 15 feet tall, a complete absence of any casing fragments, and one burnt wall receptacle.
Hey, I was young, stupid, and trying to figure out how to make a detonator.[/quote]
I got the exact same effects when I wired up a 6 volt toy car motor and plugged it in the wall...except the 15 ft flame was a really cool purple
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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
Munro Williams
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Something tells me that a link to "Unwise Microwave Oven Experiments" is appropriate:
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/microexp.html
Enjoy!
http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/weird/microexp.html
Enjoy!
Back in the days before I actually blew myself up 
, we did stick an icepick into the powder section of a loaded shotgun shell. A suitable length of 3/32" cannon fuse was inserted, lit & walked away from.
The resulting "nothing" was pretty much that.
No compression chamber = no contained/directed anything.
The shot kinda stood still (as it was the heaviest mass - although it did go a few feet under not much velocity) & the shell flew about 20 feet.
Nothing you'd do in your pocket but doubtful that it would have any effect other than to (perhaps) dent the MV interior (if that would even set it off).
Published results of various rounds being cooked off due to fires (a firemans' thing, for obvious reasons) showed that nothing really happens other than "pops," etc. and the case itself (being lighter than the opposite mass) usually goes further than does the "bullet" itself.
A chambered round is most obviously a whole 'nother matter as it is contained and channeled = a cook-off is just as "much" as if fired from a standard trigger pull in a firearm.
, we did stick an icepick into the powder section of a loaded shotgun shell. A suitable length of 3/32" cannon fuse was inserted, lit & walked away from.The resulting "nothing" was pretty much that.
No compression chamber = no contained/directed anything.
The shot kinda stood still (as it was the heaviest mass - although it did go a few feet under not much velocity) & the shell flew about 20 feet.
Nothing you'd do in your pocket but doubtful that it would have any effect other than to (perhaps) dent the MV interior (if that would even set it off).
Published results of various rounds being cooked off due to fires (a firemans' thing, for obvious reasons) showed that nothing really happens other than "pops," etc. and the case itself (being lighter than the opposite mass) usually goes further than does the "bullet" itself.
A chambered round is most obviously a whole 'nother matter as it is contained and channeled = a cook-off is just as "much" as if fired from a standard trigger pull in a firearm.
Munro......that is a kool site.
I have three microwave ovens. One of them still works but has some interesting scars.
All the ones I have had were fan ventilated, they don't seem to hold much pressure. Made a real pretty jacobs ladder with two wooden dowels soaked in chlorine bleach then stood them in the oven in an upright vee pattern. The corona around each dowell was augmented by the lateral arc moving up and down between the sticks....beautiful.
Rumor has it that microwave is not a real good way to dry freshly washed brass, lots of pretty arcing tween the necks and altered structure in the brass.
Cooked off paper hull shotshells don't do much but you will have the problem of burning cases smoking up the place.
If you get a fire goin in one, don't open the door, turn it off and the fire should oxygen starve.
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
I have three microwave ovens. One of them still works but has some interesting scars.
All the ones I have had were fan ventilated, they don't seem to hold much pressure. Made a real pretty jacobs ladder with two wooden dowels soaked in chlorine bleach then stood them in the oven in an upright vee pattern. The corona around each dowell was augmented by the lateral arc moving up and down between the sticks....beautiful.
Rumor has it that microwave is not a real good way to dry freshly washed brass, lots of pretty arcing tween the necks and altered structure in the brass.
Cooked off paper hull shotshells don't do much but you will have the problem of burning cases smoking up the place.
If you get a fire goin in one, don't open the door, turn it off and the fire should oxygen starve.
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
Munro Williams
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"Fun With Grapes" sounds like extremely cheap thrills for those rainy days:
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/grape
Scare your cat! Amaze your dog!
http://www.sci.tamucc.edu/~pmichaud/grape
Scare your cat! Amaze your dog!
CD's are pretty impressive in old microwaves. I discovered this quite by accident when a friend got a little tipsy and couldn't beat Street Fighter EX on his playstation--to him, it seemed the obvious solution was to nuke the game CD as an example to the others not to get uppity.
We've been nuking old CD-ROMs every once in awhile ever since.
I do have another friend who claims he used to put .22 rounds in a vice, with the primer pointing up and just the bullet itself in the jaws, and then whack it sideways with a hammer. Said it was kind of neat but it was dumb luck whether it would ignite since you'd knock the case off the bullet and the powder was down against the bullet itself. I say "dumb" is the operative word....
We've been nuking old CD-ROMs every once in awhile ever since.
I do have another friend who claims he used to put .22 rounds in a vice, with the primer pointing up and just the bullet itself in the jaws, and then whack it sideways with a hammer. Said it was kind of neat but it was dumb luck whether it would ignite since you'd knock the case off the bullet and the powder was down against the bullet itself. I say "dumb" is the operative word....
VictorLouis
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Didn't Gen. Hatcher detonate all common service cartridges(of the era) inside of a pine box with one inch walls? Nothing, incl. the .50 cal. pentrated through.
I believe if you surround metal with material that doesn't reflect microwaves back into the feed horn butt obsorbs them you could eliminate possible magnatron damage. This would not inhibite desired effects since microwaves cook from the middle. Therefore I recommend to insert one live round into rear of cat, dead or alive. Then microwave till detonation.
Shok
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Try this (I'm serious, it's really cool and won't hurt anyone).
Materials:
2 Forks
1 Pickle
Old lamp cord with plug still attached.
Stick one fork into each end of the pickle.
Then attach the wire to each fork.
Lay the pickle on a concrete floor or other dry, non-conductive surface.
Then, plug it into 110AC.
Stand back a couple feet.
Do this outside, or in the garage.
Why? Cause it stinks, ALOT.
What does it do?
The pickle begins to fizz and steam, and in a little while it will begin to glow orange.
My physics teacher in HS showed us that.
Then, for extra credit I made an electric chair (about 10 inches tall) and dressed up a pickle in dolls clothing.
I brought it in and executed the prisoner.
Fun stuff!
-Kframe
Materials:
2 Forks
1 Pickle
Old lamp cord with plug still attached.
Stick one fork into each end of the pickle.
Then attach the wire to each fork.
Lay the pickle on a concrete floor or other dry, non-conductive surface.
Then, plug it into 110AC.
Stand back a couple feet.
Do this outside, or in the garage.
Why? Cause it stinks, ALOT.
What does it do?
The pickle begins to fizz and steam, and in a little while it will begin to glow orange.
My physics teacher in HS showed us that.
Then, for extra credit I made an electric chair (about 10 inches tall) and dressed up a pickle in dolls clothing.
I brought it in and executed the prisoner.
Fun stuff!
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