What The British Thought Of Patriot - OR - Eat This

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In 1814 we took a little trip,
along with Col. Jackson down the mighty Mississip',
We took a little bacon and we took a little beans,
And we fought the bloody British in the town of New Orleans.

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Well, they ran through the briars,
and they ran through the brambles,
and they ran through the bushes where a rabbit couldn't go,
They ran so fast that the hounds couldn't catch'em
Down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico

I was living in New Orleans when that song came out. They used to play it on the radio all the time, not surprisingly.
 
The Brits stood alone after the fall of France because of their own temerity during the first weeks of the war. The French and the BEF had the Germans outnumbered overall at the start of the Polish campaign, and had OVERWHELMING superiority in Western Europe while the Germans were out stomping the Poles. If they had the courage to declare war, they should have had the courage to wage war. Instead, they pissed away any opportunity and let the Germans re-form, reconstitute and marshal their armies westward after the Poles were done for. They sat behind the Maginot line and waited for Hitler to do EXACTLY what he wanted to do in the French campaign of 1940. Morons. It never fails to amaze me that they were able to amass such an empire. Next time, let's just let the Germans keep it. <rant off>
 
A book for you history buffs. It is THE FRONTIERSMAN by Allen W. Eckert, published by Little & Brown. It is primarily about the lives of two important figures in the early history of our country, Simon Kenton and the Idndian, Tecumsah. But it cover a heck of a lot more than that. Data for this book was taken from diaries and other writings of the early settlers. British atrocities? How about them cannonading a fort till the settlers surrendered. Then turning the Indians loose on them. No survivors. This, BTW, is not a book for the weak stomached. There are graphic descriptions of a burning at the stake, atrocities by Indian and white men alike, both American and British.
I got this book many years ago, so it is probably out of print, but if you can find a copy, it is one hell of an eye opener on our early history. One example. george Washington, the father (?) of our country stated, "I abhor the thought of a revolution." He only went for it after the "shot heard round the world."
I strongly recommend this book to anyone really interested in out history.
Paul B.
 
Dz James, well said as to "in 1940 and 1941, one nation stood absolutely alone against the might of Nazi Germany" They stopped the advance because panzers cant cross salt water, give me a break their lucky they werent eating kraut. The russian winter and the Americans are what stopped germany. As to dresden I heard the figure at 200,000 civilians dead from the fire storm.

If the brits ever need a firearm in the future they can count me out.
 
RHC, you're right about Jones. I'd forgotten that. But surely we can agree that it's not the same as occupying large stretches of loyal British territory with troops, as the British did on American soil.

Look, guys, I'm not saying the British were angels. I'm just saying it's not shocking that they'd be angry when a movie comes out depicting their officers as brutes. Even if the officer in question really WAS a psycho.
 
It's a Hollywood movie. It's as sappy, sentimental and manipulative as Schindler's List, Braveheart, Saving Private Ryan, The Green Berets and dozens of others.

Here's something for to consider. Atrocities, appalling treatment of prisoners, cruelty to civilian populations were all hallmarks of the Civil War. No country should feel smug about it's conduct on the battlefield.
 
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