What new 9mm?

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I am going to get another 9mm, primarily for concealed carry and secondarily for home defense. I currently have a 9mm Sig Sauer P320 Compact. Some of the criteria for the handgun is as follows:

1. Must be a currently produced 9mm Luger handgun.

2. Price be no more than 750 dollars (not including tax). If it lists for 900, for example, but can generally be had for 750 or less, then that is the same thing for me.

3. Ideally it will be around the size of a Glock 19 or my Sig Sauer P320 Compact but certainly nothing significantly smaller or larger than those two handguns.

Based on those criteria, what 9mm would you get? Thank you.
 
Not much carries better than the Glock 19 in that range. It's flat, light, and nothing sticking out of the sides or end of it to poke into you. You'll have enough left over to buy a few high quality holsters and a reinforced gun belt.
 
Is there any reason you are wanting a pistol that fills the same role as your 320 compact? It's in that medium size range like the g19, Jack of all trades master of none. A good size option if you can only have one pistol... Or prefer the size to concealability balance it offers when on your belt.

I think I would go with a different size to fill a role better than getting a second compact model... But that's just me.

But if you are not satisfied with the 320, I can see wanting a replacement.


You could put a sub compact grip on the compact slide without exposing anything I think. So it would conceal a bit easier if you wanted better concealment.

Otherwise a full size pistol is great for home defense, better capacity, better grip, and longer sight radius.

Sub compacts conceal better than compacts.


But, a g19 is a good way to go if that is the size you want.

A CZ P-07 is similar in size, but is a DA/SA design.

A vp9 is between a g19 and g17 in size... It's a nice option but maybe too large.

An M&Pc is close to a g26, but has a mag with an extension for better full hand grip. It accepts full size mags, and there are sleeves available to give it a full grip when using one.
 
CZ75 compact.

The Shield would also be in the running....it shoots like a full size, but is slim enough to CC.
 
M&P 9C- Shoot it very well and like the size/ergos. But I already have a Shield and the Shield carries exceptionally well.

Glock 19- Want one. Not sure why, but I want one.
 
I'm going to echo marine here - if the primary purpose is defensive, why get something the same size instead of just using the 320? It makes more sense to me to add something smaller for times when the 320 is too difficult to conceal, or larger if used as a designated home defense/nightstand gun.

If you're ok with the thickness, I think it makes the most sense to get a subcompact 320 so that you can use the same magazines.

If you're not satisfied with the 320, what don't you like about it? That will help us guide you to spmething more to your tastes.
 
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Walters PPQ best trigger out of the box and the grip seems like it was molded to your hand? Being a Glock guy check out hickok45 reviews on the PPQ
 
I've been looking at 9mm Springfield XDm Compact.

Reasons:
1. I already have Crossbreed holster for my 4.5 XDm.
2. It's smaller than the 4.5 XDm which I sometimes carry.
3. I like the trigger.
4. The full size 19 round XDm magazines work in the compact and I already have seven full size magazines.
5. After thousands of rounds downrange, I've experienced no problems with either the 4.5 9mm or the 5.25 45 ACP.
6. The size is somewhat in the middle between my two most often carried pistols - XDm 4.5 or Kahr P9.
7. It would work in IDPA for compact carry division (an eighteen round stage forces TWO reloads with the Kahr)

Now, if only my wife would understand all this impeccable logic...
 
G19 is the perfect pistol. The G23 is close to it.

Glock Homer much? I'm sure it was hyperbole, but still.

Don't get me wrong, the Glock 19 is a very flexible and well made handgun, and one of the best comprimises for the many things people look for in a handgun, but there is no such thing as the perfect pistol. For example, I hate the grip angle on Glocks. For me, the ergos of the CZ75 and it's clones are about as good as it gets.
 
Probably won't be a popular answer but how about a Taurus PT111 G2? My wife wanted a pistol for personal protection and eventual concealed carry. We stopped by a local gun store and she was looking at pistols and picked that up, liked the way it felt in her hand so she bought it. We went out and shot it and from the range of about 20 feet she put 2 in the heart and 2 in between the eyes. The rest of the mag went into the chest with a couple more head shots. So for her it points nice, recoil is very controllable, and follow up shots were quick and accurate. Out the door cost? $239

Honestly, I have been thinking about buying one for myself. 12 and 1 capacity in a small light package.
 
The Walther P99AS and PPQ are practically identical to the Glock 19 in size and meet your other requirements.

Some feel that they carry a little better due to the shape of the grip and profile of the slide.

Both are excellent choices, though I personally feel the Anti-Stress (DA/SA) trigger of the P99AS is a better choice for carry than the PPQ trigger.
 
Probably won't be a popular answer but how about a Taurus PT111 G2? My wife wanted a pistol for personal protection and eventual concealed carry. We stopped by a local gun store and she was looking at pistols and picked that up, liked the way it felt in her hand so she bought it. We went out and shot it and from the range of about 20 feet she put 2 in the heart and 2 in between the eyes. The rest of the mag went into the chest with a couple more head shots. So for her it points nice, recoil is very controllable, and follow up shots were quick and accurate. Out the door cost? $239

Honestly, I have been thinking about buying one for myself. 12 and 1 capacity in a small light package.

I just bought one recently, paid around $220 after transfer. Really an incredible little gun for the price. I'm amazed at how tame the recoil is. My other handgun is a B6P, and I'm comfortable enough with the PT111 for now that I'm selling my B6P to upgrade to a CZ75 or one of the Tristar/Canik clones in all steel. Don't feel any less safe with it in the nightstand.
 
how about a Taurus PT111 G2?

I have no experience with the Taurus autos, and am happy with the Taurus wheelguns which I have owned or do own, but I hesitate here.

Suggest that anybody shopping Taurus make a decision after checking out the recent settlement. The TFL thread is here:

Taurus thread

I certainly do have experience with the FNS9 Compact and it is a fine gun. Shoot better that I can. And I was impressed while dry-firing the Ruger SR9 Compact. Those are good non-Glock choices.

If a person wants a single-stack 9, which conceals better, there are several choices. I am trying to decide whether I like the Walther PPS or the Springfield XD(S)9 better. I have not fired the new Glock 43 or the S&W Shield yet but they may be just right for the OP.

Isn't it great to have so many choices?

Bart Noir
 
I just recently had the same choice as you, and I bought a CZ 75 PCR. With a compact size (14+1) and alloy frame, it makes a nice size for CC that will handle itself well in an HD setting. You can also try the full size CZ 75B, which actually carries well due to a relatively slim size. If you go the CZ route, I strongly suggest a set of VZ grips. In terms of price, I paid $525 for my gun with $6 insurance from Buds, $20 for the transfer fee, and $75 for the VZ grips.

If you want to stick to polymer/striker fire, then I think it's hard to beat the Walther P99AS. Great ergonomics, nice trigger, I really can't say much bad about it. I sold mine, but I just like metal guns.
 
IMHO, the Walther PPQ M2 would be a fine choice, this arguably has one of the best triggers of any of the current group of polymer striker-fired service pistols – with a short takeup, a crisp break, a short reset travel, and a strong audible and tactile reset. The rest of the polymer striker-fired guns, the Glocks, M&P's, HK's, Ruger SR's, etc., will each fall short in one of the above trigger characteristics, while the PPQ excels in all of them.
 
3. Ideally it will be around the size of a Glock 19 o


Glock 19 is usually a "good enough gun" answer.

I have no experience with the Taurus autos, and am happy with the Taurus wheelguns which I have owned or do own, but I hesitate here.

I was hearing something about them, lately. What was it.... Oh, yeah. Massive recall.
 
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