applesanity
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The most profound statement made in this thread:
I feel special.
Alright, I'm about to sidetrack here, but it will come back on topic. Sometimes we forget that the bible was written by scribes (as divinely inspired as they may be). It's like ants explaining to each other what us humans do. You just can't. RSV:
1:1 First God made heaven & earth....1:8 ...a second day.
Them scientists say that the stars and the planets were first. Next, what exactly is a "day?" Doesn't God exist out of and beyond time? How exactly are scribes gonna convey this to the masses, or even to themselves? "Oh, billions and billions of years of space and time mean nothing to God; for Him, they're more like another day passing."
1:11 And God said, "Let the earth put forth vegetation... 1:20 And God said, "Let the waters bring forth swarms of living creatures, and let birds fly....1:24 And God said, "Let the earth bring forth living creatures according to their kinds: cattle and creeping things and beasts...""
Scientists say that the first life forms on earth were simple plant-based doodads. Assuming that a "day" in God's time can mean any vast incomprehensible stretch of time to us mere mortals, let's see the progression: next there was sea life, then these creatures came onto dry land. Then a bunch of dinosaurs evolved into birds and land-based animals. Yep, them scientists say that too.
1:26 Then God said, "Let us make man...
AH HAH! Man is the last to come about. Them goshdarn scientists also say that we homo sapiens are a relatively new species compared to the history of all animals.
Recap: First there was the planet. Then came plants. Then sea animals, which parked their butts on dry land and became land animals. Then Humans. All over the expanse of 6 days, but as we know, 6 days in the "eyes" of God could very well be something on the scale of oh say, 10-15 billion years. Isn't all of this first chapter the same progression that those godless scientists try to indoctrinate us with? Moral: Who says evolution and the Bible are mutually exclusive?
I'll tell you who - the same people who swore that the earth was flat, or that pointing a telescope to Jupiter is heresy. Don't listen to them. Read Genesis for yourself. I'm most definitely not the first to come with this version of evolution and the Bible, but I assure you that it was my take, the first time reading it. We were too arrogant as a species to accept the fact that we're not at the center of the universe. Now we're too arrogant to think that God didn't have billions of years of priorities before finalizing on us. I could be wrong, but so can you.
When Man created the 1873 Colt Single Action Army, he didn't just scoop up some iron ore and breathe gunpowder into it. Man started with crazy Chinese firecrackers, which evolved into smoothbore cannons, then flintlocks, rifling, muzzleloaders, black powder, cartridged ammo, AND THEN the SAA. Is the SAA's significance and place in Americana diminished by the realization that it wasn't created from scratch in 1 day?
Segue: I'm trying to point out that presuming how God works, or what God is thinking is just too... presumptuous. If we shouldn't be assuming how God thinks, then when we shouldn't be assuming what God thinks of RTKBA.
Back to main subject: nay on the appeal to authority. If we Americans are the only ones left (okay, and Switzerland too) who realize that RTKBA is divinely ordained, then what's the rest of the world doing? Are we the last country on earth to know what God wants? Now that is arrogant.
I think Americans are pretty unique in the world regarding RTKBA because of the way our country was founded. I'm fairly comfortable with the fact that our forefathers were just pissed off about being forced to pay taxes, being unable to smuggle molasses and rum with the Spanish, and being unable to plunder Injun territories as they please. So we decided that we had the right to overthrow our own government.
We Americans don't take @#$%& from nobody.
Or, to quote my own signature, "Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - who guards the guardians?