What is your solution to the War in Iraq?

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Mine is to take away from the terrorists what they count on: our leaving. Both Republicans and Democrats agree that we are leaving sooner or later. I say we announce that we are never going to leave. Then our friends there know we are in it for the long haul, and our enemies too.

Next, we subcontract out the management of the entire country to a private company and give them a percentage of Iraq's national product. In return we get to keep military bases and a percentage of oil revenues.

I am a big fan of privatizing warfare and management of protectorates. I can see the ads now "This war brought to you by Wal-Mart. Have a nice day!"

The Democrats seem to think surrender is in order. What say you?
 
Next, we subcontract out the management of the entire country to a private company and give them a percentage of Iraq's national product. In return we get to keep military bases and a percentage of oil revenues.
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Can you say "Halliburton?" Just reverse the economics, where we're giving them a percentage of our national product and I think you got it.
 
Just pick up and leave. Accept the fact that their country WILL plunge into 200 years of civil war, and move our troops to central Africa to help stop the atrocities over there.

I fail to understand why we give twelve-flying-flips about that little scrap of desert, anyway.
 
Greg Bell said:
Mine is to take away from the terrorists what they count on: our leaving.
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Good idea... I second Greg's motion!

My only addition would be for the Coalition Troops and the Provisional Iraqi Government to start putting some of the Iraqis TO WORK... start building roads and government utility infrastructure projects... having a job takes away the stimulus of blowing something up and nothing adds to the appreciation of freedom like having a paycheck...Want to convince Iraqis about the merits of democracy? Put a McDonalds on each street corner and start selling Ford and Toyota 4WDs... these people have had it rough for so long that they need to see the fruits of capitalism...

Start moving the Iraqi women into schools as school teachers and the men into concession sales throughout the country...

Starbucks Coffee should be involved...
 
Civil job corp, not unlike what we had in the 30's. That'll pick up their economy, teach badly needed skills, and keep 'em busy.

We could also do something silly like, oh, sponsor full scholarships for 2 year degrees in colleges across the nation.

You can't beat freedom into someone, give 'em something to work for to they appreciate it and take it for themselves.
 
Want to convince Iraqis about the merits of democracy? Put a McDonalds on each street corner and start selling Ford and Toyota 4WDs... these people have had it rough for so long that they need to see the fruits of capitalism...
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Hrm...so the American version of the merits of democracy - McDonald's and gas guzzling pickups trucks - should automatically be considered the merits of democracy for the rest of the world?

Perhaps they don't want fast food and unnecessarily large vehicles. Perhaps what Americans think is the ideal quality of life shouldn't be forced upon others who may not agree.
 
What would staying forever mean? What about the wear and tear on the folks doing these deployments, sometimes not even getting to spend 6 months at home before leaving again. The county in Texas I live in just had its first casualty in the war on terrorism. He was 21 years old and doing his third tour in Iraq. There is about 40% of the Army that bears the brunt of these deployments.

This is the Iraqi folks battle to win or lose, not America's eternal burden. Even animals wean thier young.
 
I personally would just buy them all a coke and teach them all to sing... in perfect harmony. And then our troops could just keep them comany.:)

Stupid Nick at night commercials.
 
What would staying forever mean? What about the wear and tear on the folks doing these deployments, sometimes not even getting to spend 6 months at home before leaving again. The county in Texas I live in just had its first casualty in the war on terrorism. He was 21 years old and doing his third tour in Iraq. There is about 40% of the Army that bears the brunt of these deployments.

This is the Iraqi folks battle to win or lose, not America's eternal burden. Even animals wean thier young.
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My theory is that the reason the insurgency continues is not because they think they can beat us, but because they know we are going to leave. We will do it either fast (the Democrat "cut and run" humiliation) or slow (the Republican "Marshall plan" approach). We change the dynamics of the situation by announcing, "guess what, we are not going to leave...ever." Obviously, I prefer privatizing the management of the war, possibly in combination with placing a minority group like the Kurds in place as a governing class.

Honestly, if we are going to rebuild it why should we leave? We should use Iraq as a base of operations and oil reserve.
 
Why don't we give them 1000s of weapons and let them kill themselves off in a civil war. Load up trucks with ammo and dump it in different places throughout the major cities and make them fight for it. Then build small forts at every oil field, and station our troops along the pipelines.

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Turn the army back into the army (all armed forces included) and let them kill enemies. The US armed forces are not peace keepers, nor are the reconstructionists. They break things and kill people (and lots of other stuff like protecting our people). Break the ridiculous focus on "civilian casualties" because, in case no one noticed, the enemy IS civilians. Not all civilians, obviously. But just freakin kill the guys that present themselves as enemies. I'm talking about things like that parade of Al Sadr insurgents as the US pulled their troops out of some positions at the request of the Iraqi government. Just shoot those guys and save time.

If the bad guys really believed we'd just shoot them on sight, I think we'd have a lot less trouble.
 
I was asking two gentlemen this very question yesterday.

We were all standing out holding election signs during early voting at the polls here in our county. I was a volunteer for one of them, who is running for State Rep.

The other gentleman was a volunteer stumping for my candidate's opponent.
Both these guys served in Viet Nam. Both were the very definition of the term "gentlemen."

Interestingly they both had the exact opinions on Iraq. Both agreed the stated purpose at the time we went in, was to remove Saddam Huessein from power and to halt the threat of suspected, (or supposedly at the time) confirmed possession of WMD's.

They both agreed there is an insurgent guerrilla civl war in Iraq, and that you cannot defeat a political insurgency with a military solution. It must be solved by the Iraqis.

Regardless of whether the WMD issue was trumped up or not, they both agreed that regardless, both issues are RESOLVED. Saddam is not in power. And there are no WMD's to worry about. So according to these guys, there is no reason for us to be there much longer.

They said we should tell the Iraqi Government we are pulling back, we will back them up, but THEY MUST NOW BE THE ONES ENTERING THESE BUILDINGS, NOT US. We need to tell them it is time now for them to decide what they are going to do. They said we should move our asses out of Iraq, and redeploy into Turkey and Kuwait. Then, we need to monitor if these guys want to protect their new democracy or not. If they do, then we can still have a presence to back them up, but we cannot stay there forever, and we cannot continue to be their army.

These guys spent a heck of a lot of time learning through Viet Nam the very hard way (one as a commander, and one as a private) that you cannot win a guerrilla war or civil war as an outside military force unless you are willing to be as viscious as Saddam was. And we are not going to do that.

So here is what I think we should do about Iraq. I think we should have Bush fly down to Austin with Don Rumsfeld. They should then be driven out to where these two old gentleman live. WHATEVER THESE TWO GENTLEMEN TELL BUSH AND RUMSFELD TO DO IN IRAQ, should be done.

I think we should try listening to these two guys.
 
BRING BACK HANDY!!
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Why? :rolleyes:

As to Iraq?

Level Falugah...the "seat" of terrorism in Iraq... from the center outward very slowly, so the people can evacuate safely into a prepared tent city.

Pick up known terrorists as they try to depart...

When finished... rebuild money should be given to those who were displaced...

This scorched earth policy would be cheaper, and faster, and safer, than the current methods and much more effective... ;)

Source? General Sherman... ;)

Keep the terrorists off balance and on the run at all times... :)
 
We change the dynamics of the situation by announcing, "guess what, we are not going to leave...ever."
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When all along our government has been saying that the U.S. believes in Iraq as a sovereign nation?

When all along our government has been stating the U.S. believes in the Iraqi government we help build and report is a success?

We're then supposed to tell the people of Iraq and the government we help build that we're not leaving their country because we say so - essentially pissing on everything we've stated prior about sovereignty and democracy?

Sorry, I wouldn’t sign on for that one.

Your forecasted change in "dynamics" is based on a flawed theory in my opinion:

My theory is that the reason the insurgency continues is not because they think they can beat us, but because they know we are going to leave.
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I don't share this opinion.

They're fighting for a multitude of reasons such as a belief system most of us do not understand. They’re also fighting for the same reasons you or I would fight if this were happening in America – they feel it’s their homeland and they want us out. Whether or not they can win based on sheer firepower inadequacies is of little concern in their eyes.

Would you give up for the same reasons if another nation took occupancy of your homeland? I’m not trying to put a noble face on an otherwise ugly group of miscreants responsible for some damn despicable atrocities, but it baffles me that some people have a hard time understanding that these people are dug in for the long haul, and will fight until the last man is gone.

This goes well beyond Iraq. In fact it extends all over the world, and will again be on our soil. It’s just a matter of time unfortunately.

That’s my extremely unqualified opinion.
 
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