A Kimber .45 Cal. Ultra Carry II, 1911 in a Sam Andrews www.andrewsleather.com pocket holster in my right front poacket, and a spare mag in a homemade mag pouch in my left front pocket.
What is your preferred carry (concealed) method?
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I carry a Kel-Tec PF-9 (9mm) in my front pants pocket. Everyday.
Dress slacks, jeans, shorts - any time I'm out of my house. Period.
I understand people that have to abide by "company policy" and not being allowed to protect themselves because I'm in the same situation. I also have "federal policy" to deal with, so I completely understand needing to remain in deep concealment.
But at the same time I do not want to go around unarmed. For my particular situation a BUG or mousegun becomes my primary as concealment becomes more important than firepower. But it beats the heck out of a sharpened pencil.
Dress slacks, jeans, shorts - any time I'm out of my house. Period.
I understand people that have to abide by "company policy" and not being allowed to protect themselves because I'm in the same situation. I also have "federal policy" to deal with, so I completely understand needing to remain in deep concealment.
But at the same time I do not want to go around unarmed. For my particular situation a BUG or mousegun becomes my primary as concealment becomes more important than firepower. But it beats the heck out of a sharpened pencil.
I carry a P-3AT, front pocket.
I tried a DeSantis, not comfortable, an Uncle Mike's, wore ok, but I could not pull the gun out without the holster coming along for the trip.
Heard about Migl's, he was busy but got me a really comfortable pocket holster in about 3 weeks, good price, too.
Haband sells an elastic waist band pair of slacks, just what a short, fat person such as me needs, that has a so called "change pocket" in the right front pocket that is just right for a P-3 AT or even a lightweight .38 snubby, check out the web site.
I tried a DeSantis, not comfortable, an Uncle Mike's, wore ok, but I could not pull the gun out without the holster coming along for the trip.
Heard about Migl's, he was busy but got me a really comfortable pocket holster in about 3 weeks, good price, too.
Haband sells an elastic waist band pair of slacks, just what a short, fat person such as me needs, that has a so called "change pocket" in the right front pocket that is just right for a P-3 AT or even a lightweight .38 snubby, check out the web site.
Tanzer, You make a awefully assertive opinion there bud. Do you have any proof of a CIVILIAN becoming target number one to a bad guy due to open carry. With out any proof or cites, your opinion is just that a unsupported opinion and opinions are like arseholes everyone has them and they all stink. Sure it happens to LEO, but we are not leo's we dont go chasing after the worst society has to offer. No one can can really claim either way that it is or isnt more dangerous. Due to the lack of any crimes or incidents involving CIVILIANs O/cing.
There for you have no business insulting someones method of carry, and then telling him he is target numberone with out any conclusive proof. The very fact he is still drawing air and typing here is proof that is wasnt target number one. Considering as a armed guard i o/c all the time, and im still here is proof of that. There is something to say for open deterence of crime, which is the premis that a armed guard operates under. Were nothing more then civilians in fancy shirts and pants.
After working in some of the worst places my city has to offer, I have learned what to look for when people are casing a place. usualy one look at me and my large pistol and the car tends to peel out faster then a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
I hate the endless OC bashing, oc'ers dont bash cc'ers even tho there is evedence, of people who cc, not being able to draw there peice in time, due to having to dick with the clothing ontop of there gun, and other objects on there person impeding the draw. None of those things affect a O/C'er.
Like it hate it love it, what ever your opinion on oc as a pro second ammendment and RKBA person you should always support the right of the person to choose what ever method of carry suits them the best for any given moment with out insulting them. Just becuase O/C doest suit you, dosent me it dosent suit him. There shouldnt be any infighting on this issue, we should be a united front in the RKBA frount.Not squabiling over weather or not oc is good or bad, there are far more important issues to deal with. Like how to mitigate the damage the next and almost guaranteed to be democratic president will do to RKBA
There for you have no business insulting someones method of carry, and then telling him he is target numberone with out any conclusive proof. The very fact he is still drawing air and typing here is proof that is wasnt target number one. Considering as a armed guard i o/c all the time, and im still here is proof of that. There is something to say for open deterence of crime, which is the premis that a armed guard operates under. Were nothing more then civilians in fancy shirts and pants.
After working in some of the worst places my city has to offer, I have learned what to look for when people are casing a place. usualy one look at me and my large pistol and the car tends to peel out faster then a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
I hate the endless OC bashing, oc'ers dont bash cc'ers even tho there is evedence, of people who cc, not being able to draw there peice in time, due to having to dick with the clothing ontop of there gun, and other objects on there person impeding the draw. None of those things affect a O/C'er.
Like it hate it love it, what ever your opinion on oc as a pro second ammendment and RKBA person you should always support the right of the person to choose what ever method of carry suits them the best for any given moment with out insulting them. Just becuase O/C doest suit you, dosent me it dosent suit him. There shouldnt be any infighting on this issue, we should be a united front in the RKBA frount.Not squabiling over weather or not oc is good or bad, there are far more important issues to deal with. Like how to mitigate the damage the next and almost guaranteed to be democratic president will do to RKBA
Nightwatch, I tried that whole carry your gun in the kidney area, and while it is ok. I find that anything from 4:00 on i feel like im sitting on my gun, i can just feel it digging into my back when i sit down. So i carry at 3:00 with a forward cant. Sometimes, carry weakside cross draw at about 10:30 but thats just not very good for cc/oc either way, tho the draw is fast. When i go out with both my full sized guns on, ill have the M15-3 at 3:00 with a forward cant and my Glock 17 at around 10-1030 with a slight cant. Not forgetting a large shirt.
Being a large Framed man, i could never figure out how people on here carried at 4:00 or later, every time i do it i feel like im sitting on the gun, with it pressing into my back. I would appreciate some advice there. Using a Black widow for the M15-3 and that one bianchi leather with the weird thinger activated retention button whose name escapes me.
Being a large Framed man, i could never figure out how people on here carried at 4:00 or later, every time i do it i feel like im sitting on the gun, with it pressing into my back. I would appreciate some advice there. Using a Black widow for the M15-3 and that one bianchi leather with the weird thinger activated retention button whose name escapes me.
Silentarmy
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Open carriers are as difficult to spot as a bald guy with a bad sunburn. If I was engaged in a criminal act you can be sure that you will take the first bullet while standing there looking like Butch Cassidy! This is not directed at any one person in particular, just saying that the obvious will get you killed first while the element of suprise will ALWAYS give one the advantage. LEO's I have worked with are mostly of the opinion that Wannabe's are hazardous to themselves and others and OC makes one look that part.
Night Watch
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I don't think that's 4:00 o'clock; I think it's, more like, 5:00 o'clock. Still, a lot depends on how you're built. I'm a big guy, too. I like the feeling of having the gun butt pressing into my kidney - Not the whole gun! I use a 15 degree forward cant holster, too.
Wouldn't you agree that carrying just off the point of your hip (off 3:00 o'clock) is a better way to go? If I weren't worried about, 'showing' or getting my gun grabbed, I'd probably appendix carry, too.
Yeah, my Hawaiian shirts are always unbloused too. I, also, don't button the bottom 2 buttons so that I can sweep the shirt.
You don't say what your dress requirements are, nor what state you live in. If you can work in blue jeans and a light jacket or sports coat, I'd suggest an IWB and a single-stack auto. I carried a CCO (Officer framed-Commander slide) in a AKJ Concealco IWB and have just moved over to a NM holster for it's better cant and ability to conceal. The change to a steeper cant made carry quite a bit more comfortable, too.
If you're in an environment where you sometimes have to remove the outer upper garment, I'd suggest the already-recommended J-frame (or other light gun) in an ankle holster inside the weak leg. It ain't fast, but at least it's always on your person, and no slower than a briefcase.
If you're in an environment where you sometimes have to remove the outer upper garment, I'd suggest the already-recommended J-frame (or other light gun) in an ankle holster inside the weak leg. It ain't fast, but at least it's always on your person, and no slower than a briefcase.
silentarmy i see statements like yours all the time, but with no substantiated proof that a civillian is at a greater risk of being a target. Im not talking LEO im talking civllians, and most leo i talk to arnt the most knowdgleable when it comes to firearms, they just shoot to qualify and thats it.
As a armed guard, my job as deterence, thats why we opened carried as part of our uniform. I believe that a civilian open carrying is doing the same thing as a security guard, acting as a deterent to crime. As I have said in the past, when you know what to look for, its easy to tell when someone is casing a place and when you just detered a crime. I see it all the time. I work the worst places in my area.
I just wish the whole open carry makes you a big target crowed would find some news paper reports, of Civlians not leo's but joe blow, who decided to oc and became a target.
Im reminded of a guy here in northern indiana who went to purchase a car late at night(mistake) and had his ccw with him, but when he was attacked was unable to draw it intime.
As a armed guard, my job as deterence, thats why we opened carried as part of our uniform. I believe that a civilian open carrying is doing the same thing as a security guard, acting as a deterent to crime. As I have said in the past, when you know what to look for, its easy to tell when someone is casing a place and when you just detered a crime. I see it all the time. I work the worst places in my area.
I just wish the whole open carry makes you a big target crowed would find some news paper reports, of Civlians not leo's but joe blow, who decided to oc and became a target.
Im reminded of a guy here in northern indiana who went to purchase a car late at night(mistake) and had his ccw with him, but when he was attacked was unable to draw it intime.
I carry either a s&w m&p 9c or g30 at 5 o'clock iwb...works out to be the most comfortable position for me due to my work...
...i never leave the house w/o one or the other and sometimes a p32 in a pants pocket...
...depending on which holster I wear I carry an extra mag...a couple of holsters have mag holders and a couple don't...
...i feel that 11+ rounds of either is enough to defend myself but if I have a mag holder, why not take advantage of it...
...i never leave the house w/o one or the other and sometimes a p32 in a pants pocket...
...depending on which holster I wear I carry an extra mag...a couple of holsters have mag holders and a couple don't...
...i feel that 11+ rounds of either is enough to defend myself but if I have a mag holder, why not take advantage of it...
You don't say what your dress requirements are, nor what state you live in.
I live in Arizona, a very gun friendly state. However in my work I have to travel a great deal and I go from bank to bank. Both the travel and the destinations can be hazardous. Except during summer I do wear a jacket. During the summer heat none of us do.
Another problem, carrying is against company policy (it's ok for customers to carry in the bank but not employees, go figure). So one has to decide, do I risk my job or my life. Thus far I have just missed 5 holdups, where I arrived just after or left just before the bad guys arrived. I'm not worried about the guy who passes a note and gets a bag of cash. The 5 I missed were all armed robberies, and I just don't want to trust that they will be a "safe" robbery. Too many are not.
So I take my ccw deadly serious, every day the loss of my job (and career) or the risk of my life are on the line. So I greatly appreciate the advice. Since I first posted this I've switched to IWB at the 4 postion and feel much more comfortable.
I'm also thinking of switching from by Glock 19 to my XD. I shoot the XD much more accurately from 25 feet on out, but I have night sights on the Glock and none on the XD yet.
I live in Arizona, a very gun friendly state. However in my work I have to travel a great deal and I go from bank to bank. Both the travel and the destinations can be hazardous. Except during summer I do wear a jacket. During the summer heat none of us do.
Another problem, carrying is against company policy (it's ok for customers to carry in the bank but not employees, go figure). So one has to decide, do I risk my job or my life. Thus far I have just missed 5 holdups, where I arrived just after or left just before the bad guys arrived. I'm not worried about the guy who passes a note and gets a bag of cash. The 5 I missed were all armed robberies, and I just don't want to trust that they will be a "safe" robbery. Too many are not.
So I take my ccw deadly serious, every day the loss of my job (and career) or the risk of my life are on the line. So I greatly appreciate the advice. Since I first posted this I've switched to IWB at the 4 postion and feel much more comfortable.
I'm also thinking of switching from by Glock 19 to my XD. I shoot the XD much more accurately from 25 feet on out, but I have night sights on the Glock and none on the XD yet.
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My daily carry gun is a Kahr PM9 ... I carry it during the summer in a De Santis pocket holster. When I can wear an overshirt or jacket, I carry it crossdraw in a Fobus paddle holster. I also bought a Coronado leather vest with two chest level pockets. Excellent concealment, but I find it hard to draw the gun quickly, so I don't wear it much. Tried a fanny pack, but I have draw issues with it too.
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My daily carry gun is a Kahr PM9 ... I carry it during the summer in a De Santis pocket holster. When I can wear an overshirt or jacket, I carry it crossdraw in a Fobus paddle holster. I also bought a Coronado leather vest with two chest level pockets. Excellent concealment, but I find it hard to draw the gun quickly, so I don't wear it much. Tried a fanny pack, but I have draw issues with it too.
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You have to stand for something, or you'll fall for anything ...