What is Your Perfect Carry Combination?

dgludwig summarized the reasons rather well.

MashieNiblick- if you think the "sound of a hammer" matters at all you are misguided.

You should re-examine your philosophies about carrying and preparation.
 
Mike,

Yep, I'm LEO, so I always have at least one set of handcuffs on me. Old timer gave me the thought, kinda drilled it into my head a bit, lol!


MashieNiblick,

I guess I should have added the cell phone too, lol. The .327 is 6 shot. And the knife, knives, are a just in case, last resort sort of thing. Can come in handy for all kinds of situations from cutting a seatbelt to a letter opener, lol. You never know when you'll want, need a good knife! the Smith one isn't bad, I like the Lightening better.

Having a baton isn't a bad idea either!
 
dgludwig,

You make good points. such situations should be discussed solely on an individual basis and will always be comprised of infinite variations.

in the particular situation discussed, finger would most likely be off the trigger, gun may be pointed elsewhere, hammer may or may not be released and reactuated infinitely as necessary for hopefully successful talk down.

the hammer could be a very useful tool here.

we're basically talking hostage (either You, i, or other) negotiation, and fear of personal or other's life, so if no immediate life threatening danger, drawing out may prove best.

i am basically approaching the firearm as a life saving aperatus at this point, and not a life ending implement.

the last thing one should ever, ever, ever, ever want to do is pull the trigger.

however that does happen sometimes, and everyone deals with it afterward the best that we can.

again, the last thing one should ever want to do is pull the trigger, you make good points, and i don't argue them.
 
I note that you got several threads closed yesterday.
Reading your posts in this thread, I would say that on your present course, you will have more.

You have a lot to learn. Read a lot, post a little.

If you cannot shoot a revolver DA, you have no business carrying one.

Nearly all LEAs that issued duty revolvers had them modified to DAO, mostly because of individuals who cocked their revolvers in stressfull situations and then had NDs...with predictable and unfortunate results.
 
Mashie, I really think you're creating some serious liability problems for yourself by:
  1. Dry-firing a loaded handgun (If it is necessary to remove round 1, then it is necessary to remove all rounds from the cylinder before dry-firing. You're actually talking about dry-firing a loaded gun!!
  2. SA then DA. (If your life is in danger, then you need to shoot to stop the threat. If your life is not in danger, then don't draw and don't cock your hammer. Get some expert training and advice in this regard. There have been many cases of accidental discharge with cocked revolver hammers. Your hammer is not your first line of defense. Your brain is first line and the gun is after that.)
  3. Threatening to shoot by cocking the hammer (This is a set-up for disaster. Many perps will call your bluff and make you shoot or even dare you to shoot. They will play head games while your hammer is cocked and your finger is on the trigger, pulsing with adrenaline. Witnesses will be watching. If you fire accidently or negligently, you won't be helping yourself.)

I'm not trying to be overly critical, just trying to make you think some more. You really need to get some expert training and change your thinking and tactics.
 
Dry-firing a loaded handgun (If it is necessary to remove round 1, then it is necessary to remove all rounds from the cylinder before dry-firing. You're actually talking about dry-firing a loaded gun!!
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Ten ring I agree with you I have been shooting over 50 years and carrying for around 20+ total . I have never heard or such before . I also never heard of BG scared of hammer click. Most not real concerned about racking a shot gun .
I think poster need to rethink all his actions and training if any . Never met anyone on the Police Dept that that I spent time with That did a firing pin check before duty and would never with a loaded pistol.

Their used to be a mall security force, that would love to have him . :D
 
My perfect carry

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MashieNiblick

- .38 special ammo enough to take down any realistic self defense target and shouldn't overpenetrate like a .357mag most likely will
- SA then DA (not DA then SA like some semiautos) capability: Hammer can be first line of defense if successful in perp draw down. From than point it's just a small trigger tap for first (and hopefully only) round. If other rounds are necessary, then DA will be used

Over penetration should be much less of a concern than missing your target. In shoot-outs most rounds miss center of mass, or even hit the target. Obviously, a round that misses the target has more energy and is more of a threat than one which has traversed a body and lost much of its energy.

Choose a round that you can competently shoot in a defensive situation. Balance speed and accuracy.

Your post makes me doubt that you have had any training in defensive shooting. All defensive handguns cartridges (which I define as less than .44 magnum load but equal to or greater than .38 Spl/9mm para) are under powered, that is why students are taught to shoot twice to center of mass, assess and proceed as necessary.

Additionally, is it realistic to expect one shot to stop a determined attacker? Training on using cover, concealment and movement could be useful.
 
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A comment on the "fire two rounds" system:
The double tap concept was designed to handle multiple targets. Fire two rounds at the most dangerous target, then shift to the next. fire two......
If you have a single threat, keep firing until the subject is "neutralized" i.e. unable to return fire.
 
A Glock 22-C, one extra magazine and a pocketknife. Then you have my favorite shooting pattern: 2 to the chest and 1 to the head. So all that works for me.
 
Too stupid to respond to. I read the first 6 or seven posts, full of total firearms ignorant garbage, cell-phone chat and gansta rap, and I choose to take a dump on this thread. :) :) :)

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Changed my mind. I decided to give this thread the respect it deserves, with apologies as appropriate:

This is my deep carry: for church, school board meetings, jury duty, my work at a fed facility at an airport in Houston, whenever deep discretion seems important:

I usually keep the chamber clear, so I can dry fire to let them know I'm thinking about getting ready to get serious about loading.

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LOL - I love it. When I was in Vietnam we often used the double tap.
1st tap - 15 rounds, 2nd tap - the other 15 rounds. Repeat if necessary.
Back in those days gunfights weren't 10 seconds, sometimes they were
10 hours and more. One last thing, dry-firing a loaded gun is a sure way
for somebody to collect your insurance.
 

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