What is your minimum rifle battery?

Properly loaded the 30-06 will outperform.....45-70 on game.
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On what planet? Sorry but speed can't make up for diameter and weight. There are plain few standard cartridges that can compete with the .45-70 within its effective range. A good 420gr LBT will fully penetrate any critter in North America. I'm always amazed at what the .30-06 true believers will post about their favorite cartridge.
 
I shoot both a 06 and a 45 70. most people do not spend enough time shooting a 45 70 at different ranges to know its trajectory. with out good field marksmanship skill in range estimation and the corresponding bullet drop you are gonna be in trouble.
..... so as in what planet? any planet that has gravity. bobn
 
(1) .22 magnum....I keep one loaded above the front door for armadillos, fox, coyote, skunk, groundhog, bobcat, possum, and any other critter that needs shooting.

(2) .223 Remington bolt-action....longer range varmint gun.

(3) .270 Winchester...my current deer favorite.

(4) If I get to choose four....I just won't stop....though it'd likely be a .22LR, though since getting hooked on the .22 mag, I seldom shoot the LR any more.
 
I shoot both a 06 and a 45 70. most people do not spend enough time shooting a 45 70 at different ranges to know its trajectory. with out good field marksmanship skill in range estimation and the corresponding bullet drop you are gonna be in trouble.
..... so as in what planet? any planet that has gravity. bobn
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Nobody with half a brain will argue trajectory but the statement made had nothing to do with trajectory. I also stipulated "within its range". Apparently reading comprehension is a lost art.
 
OK, I'll play:

1) CZ .22lr - Bunnies for the pot
2) CZ .223 - Keep the 'yotes and wolves off your stock (or your farmer buddy's)
3) CZ .30-06 - Deer sized game
4) CZ .375 H&H - Moose, Bear etc

Why so many CZs?

Reliable, accurate, lots of accessories
Put 'scopes with same kind of reticule on all of them
Same manual of arms for each
A lot of value in CZ firearms

Additions:

1)Mossberg 535 with 26" barrel with multi-chokes, slug barrel perhaps (very flexible system)


2) Quick release mount for the .375's 'scope (Dangerous game in the thick stuff, irons are just faster)


3) Suppress the .22lr for some really quiet varminting

Finally - drop the AR idea and quit messing around with lever actions. Get serious.

Now, where is my helmet...?

ATB,

Scrummy

(PS, you might be able to do the same with Ruger as opposed to CZ if that floats your boat)
 
I could take care of all my hunting and defensive needs with 3 rifles:

10/22
AR-15 in 5.56 (or if you want to sort of cheat, throw in a .300 Blackout or 7.62x39 upper for hunting).
Semi-Auto .308 (I'd go with a SCAR)

Unless you're going for Elk, Moose, Bear or the Chupacabra, a .308 is plenty of power. Especially here in TX.

If I had to pick a Zombocalypse survival kit, I'd say throw in a shotgun and a Glock 20 in 10mm on top of these 3 and I'd have a gun for every purpose.
 
I subsisted with a .22LR Rifle, 12 gauge pump shotgun, and .30-06 bolt-action for several years. That should handle most every need you have for the time being.

We hunted woodchucks to deer with the '06. With the right loads, it will kill everything in North America. We shot everything smaller with the .22 LR and learned to shoot very well with it. The 12 gauge is for birds, ducks, geese, and for close-up bear, with proper loads for each.
 
OP said rifles, so I am not considering shotguns and pistols.

1. Ruger 10/22 in .22LR
2. AR-15, 18" barrel, .223 Wylde (If I can game the question, I also have a 16" upper, a 24" .204 upper, a 10" 300 BO and a .450 BM upper)
3. Custom built .260 Rem on a Rem 700, excellent glass and some $ in the chassis and bi-pod too.
4. Weatherby .338-06

Only 3, delete #3. If I could only have two, I would probably go with the 18" .223 and a medium weight .308 bolt gun. Only one, probably an AR-10 in .308.
 
Your original post stated you would forego the 22LR and start with .223, so let's start there. All can be done on standard Mauser or M70 actions.
1. .223
2. .243
3. 7x57
4. 9.3x62
 
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I am excluding shotguns and handguns too. I would have to approach it from the standpoint of if I could only keep four of my rifles they would be:
CZ 512 .22 WMR
Savage .243 with AccuStock and AccuTrigger
CZ 550 American 6.5x55
Remington 700 ADL .270

On another day it might be my DPMS A3 Classic for the .243 or my Vanguard S2 30-06 for the .270.
 
22LR for small tasty critters. I like a Marlin 60
12gr for flying tasty gritters. Mossberg
6.5x55 for hoofed critters. Tikka T3
375 H&H for dangerous critters. CZ

Yes there are much larger and more powerful big guns then the 375 H&H but I prefer something that won't break my bones too. The 6.5x55 has world class credentials as a highly versatile rifle, from rabbit to elk it does it all, this is especially true for us handloaders.
 
12 gauge pump...from shot to slug, nothing is more versatile
...if it flies, climbs, walks or runs, its mine

if I can have 2, the next would be a precision 22lr with a 2 x 7 scope
...for food under 35 pounds

bless me with a 3rd, i'd have a bolt 30-06 topped with a 4 x 12
...reach out and touch something -- feed or protect the group
 
Minimum battery for anything in the United States on a limited budget? The last time I checked years ago, the cost for a week of brown bear hunting on Kodiak Island was $12,000, the same for a sheep hunt in the Brooks Range. Western big game hunts for out of state hunters are not cheap either. If you're on a limited budget, you might as well concentrate on what is locally available. Sure, you can hunt 90-pound whitetails in Virginia with a 300 magnum on the chance that you might get to go to Alaska the next year, but you're kidding yourself. When you can afford the guided hunt, you can afford the rifle you need for it.
 
.22lr & 6.5 Swede, that'll kill anything around here easily. Two or four legged.

Got a .300blk for a suppressed toy. But could kill anything around here with that between having supersonics & mouse fart lead loads.

If I had to worry about fuzzy things that can eat me, .375H&H, hands down.

Never had anymore than two rifles at a time, one always a .22lr & a centerfire that can drop a deer to 200 yards.
 
First has to be a .22, probably half the game I have taken in my life has fallen by the lowly .22lr.

Next would be either .270 or .30-06. I currently own both, and consider them practically interchangable for my needs.

Third, I suppose would be an intermediate, my favorite being 7.62x39, but .223 or .30-30 would work fine too. Short to medium range brush gun for pigs and such...

After that, the last need would be for a thumper for big bear, and since I lack experience in that field, I won't even hazard an opinon.

Lol, my father did tell me once that if a .30-06 wouldn't do it, it didn't need doing. Suppose that's the luxury of living in the east.
 
In my home area, SW Virginia, which is mostly wooded mountains and some river bottom land, the biggest animal you will encounter is a blackbear or the occasional stray milk cow:). Given that, I feel perfectly fine with a lever action in 30-30 and some type of .22 Mag or .22 LR rifle. A good 12 or 20 guage shot should round out any other needs.
 
- Browning BLR; 300 WSM for large game.
- Browning X-bolt; 280 Rem for medium game.
- CZ 550FS or Browning BLR; 243 Win for small game.
- CZ 527 Carbine; 7.62x39mm for brush gun/child's first hunting rifle.
***Alternative to CZ 527 Carbine would be a Sig 556R in 7.62x39 to double as a family defense gun in an emergency situation.

I love my CZs and if they made rifles chambered in those other two calibers, they would likely be listed as CZs as well.
 
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