What is your favorite assult style platform?

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loose_holster_dan

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i own a few different platforms and love them all, but certain platforms have nice little advantages over others. for instance, the AR platform offers a lot of customization options, but i tend to use every spot on my quad rail, and things tend to get a little heavy. the bullpup platform offers a sbr solution without the paperwork. the AR pistol platform offers all of the lovelies that the AR carbine offers in a nice small package, but can be pretty tough to hit targets at anything but short distance.

just interested to get your thoughts.
 
Personally I believe in wood and steel, but around here my Mom's is more effective.
Have you ever been tapped at the base of the skull with a porcelain Darning Egg? Instant stars, bright lights and obedience! :D
This is part of her actual collection.

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And if it's not wood and steel, this is my preffered platform.

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Please refer to it as an AR platform vs. assault style platform. The true definition of an assault rifle is a rifle that is full auto. We don't need to help the anti-gunners change the true definition of an assault rifle.
 
There is no one gun for every situation...

I would say the AR platform is probably the most versatile, but some situations call for more... some for less.

I love AR's
I love M1A's
I LOVE the MP-5's I have shot.
I appreciate the AK

I DO have my sights set on a new Sig 556 Russian in 7.62x39

It would really come down to what I would be doing with it, where I was at... ect ect.
 
i like the ACR platform and how versatile it is with all the different configurations, now if only i had the money to get one :cool:
 
My favorite assault platform is easily the M1A1 Abrams. When you've taken one of those down Table 8 with a good crew, get the green light from the tower and start engaging targets there's no finer feeling in the world.

It's also cool to be out at night under the stars, rolling across a desert with A-10's in direct support and know that anyone who wants to deal you grief is going to be in a world of hurt.
 
I love my AR carbines..I got one set up as a precisio deer rifle and I got a 9mm set up for cheap plinking. if I had 2 grand to blow I would love to get a FNH FS2000 though...I've always been intrigued by bullpups but you have to spend money if you want one that's decent
 
Please refer to it as an AR platform vs. assault style platform. The true definition of an assault rifle is a rifle that is full auto. We don't need to help the anti-gunners change the true definition of an assault rifle.
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Thank you. Select fire is a requirement....
Not to mention that fact that an "assault rifle" is chambered for an intermediate cartridge, NOT a rifle caliber...

That would make it a BATTLE RIFLE gentlemen. As in all the .308/ 7.62 NATO rifles already mentioned (FAL, M14...).
 
i like a good m4 myself. get some good mags and the right amount of oil and you're golden. its accurate, easy to shoot, versatile... all you need

but if i could take anything i would have a m249... love that gun!
 
I'll stick to the weapons that I have actually fired and handled often.
That group includes several types including AR15/M4, AK, G3, FAL, AR180, DR200.

My top 2 two sleepers....
Daewoo DR200/K2.
>Ergos, FCG, caliber and accuracy of the AR
>Long stroke gas system, mud-gun reliability of the AK
>Tunable gas port of the FAL
=The best of all worlds.

A close second would be the AR180, which is IMO one of the most under-rated tactical rifles in the world.
 
My favorite assault platform is easily the M1A1 Abrams. When you've taken one of those down Table 8 with a good crew, get the green light from the tower and start engaging targets there's no finer feeling in the world.
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Meh, I don't know about that. The Abrams was designed for the Fulda Gap and as a result has some serious shortcomings. Side and rear armor is thin and penetrated by RPG's, in order to have greater frontal armor, and top armor is essentially nonexistent, a simple steel plate IIRC. The Merkava Mark IV seems to have far better all-around armor protection combined with the "Trophy" countermeasure system that the Abrams lacks.

/To heck with AR vs AK debate.:p
 
"Assault?"

I prefer explosives and something along the lines of a megaton yield nuke.

For rifles, well I can't own assault rifles because of $ and laws, but my fighting gun would be the Izzy AK74 I got. ;)
 
Not to jack the thread, but

Meh, I don't know about that. The Abrams was designed for the Fulda Gap and as a result has some serious shortcomings. Side and rear armor is thin and penetrated by RPG's, in order to have greater frontal armor, and top armor is essentially nonexistent, a simple steel plate IIRC. The Merkava Mark IV seems to have far better all-around armor protection combined with the "Trophy" countermeasure system that the Abrams lacks.
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We've lost very few crewmen to enemy fire. Three, I believe, have been killed in IED attacks, and we lost four Marines when their tank fell through a bridge into a river and they drowned. We had one M1A1 lost to friendly fire during an incident during the first Gulf War. It seems that it was penetrated by a Hellfire missile, but the crew got out. In the later Iraqi unpleasantness, we've had some disabled by RPG attacks that destroyed track and achieved a mobility kill, but the rounds didn't penetrate the armor.

However, in October 2003 we lost two good soldiers when their Abrams was hit by a mine. DOD believes that extra explosives were added to the mine to increase its effectiveness.

That's a great battle record. The M1A2 series tanks continue to be upgraded as the threat evolves. I'm not sure that it needs any more overhead protection, as that doesn't seem to be the direction from whence the threat comes.
 
We've lost very few crewmen to enemy fire.
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More to do with enemy incompetence and lack of more modern anti-tank weapons. The Merkava IV has to deal with an enemy that has top of the line anti-tank weapons like the 9M133 Kornet while the Abrams seldom has to deal with anything more advanced than single stage HEAT rounds from unguided RPG-7 launchers.

In the later Iraqi unpleasantness, we've had some disabled by RPG attacks that destroyed track and achieved a mobility kill, but the rounds didn't penetrate the armor.
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Um, at least one Abrams has had an RPG-7 with a modern PG-7VR warhead penetrate the side armor, the entire interior of the tank, and buried into the other side, back in 2003. By a minor miracle none of the crew were killed or seriously injured and thankfully those warheads are not more common and insurgents not better marksman. The insurgents know this and simply adjust tactics and tend to avoid the Abrams as there is no shortage of far easier targets.

I'm not sure that it needs any more overhead protection, as that doesn't seem to be the direction from whence the threat comes.
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Virtually every guided anti-tank missile built in the last 20 years is designed for a top-down attack. The Abrams has been spoiled by fighting an enemy that doesn't have more modern anti-tank weapons.
 
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