What is the most overpriced handgun?

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Falcon642

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My local Sportsmans Warehouse had a FN 5.7 in stock today. I asked to handle it and was surprised at just how much if felt like a airsoft pistol. Then I looked at the price, $1032 before tax :eek:. Damn.

I am intrigued by the 5.7, but there are alot of guns out there that intrigue me for alot less than $1000.

So what is the most overpriced production handgun? (Lets leave the super custom all gold cartel boss guns out of this :) )
 
So what is the most overpriced production handgun?
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Everything made by Wilson Combat and Ed Brown, as well as every other high-end 1911 maker. They're very nice guns, but $3000 and up for a handgun???
 
Overpriced.

Hello all,

It seems that when it comes to price, the various 1911 makers are racing to out-price one another. It's almost unreal what some of them cost. I was able to pick up a used Colt Combat Commander for a little bit less than some of the Rock Island guns at Cabela's a few days ago. Even Para-Ordnance's entry level gun, the GI Expert, was over $600. The higher-end Kimber and P-O pistols were well over $1000. I've seen Wilson Combat guns go over $2500.

With the tooling and technology available, I don't see why no one can produce a reliable, basic, American-made 1911 in the $400 to $500 range.

Regards,
Johnnie T.
 
I agree with the above posts---1911's. There's no way it should cost over $1000 for a quality 1911. For example, S&W can make a high quality M&P for $500 but their mid level 1911's go for $900-1100. There's no way to justify that except that people will still by them. I have 4 1911's but I always cringe when I walk to the register.

Also in the overpriced category---H&K's. They are great guns, but the price tag has always kept me away.
 
There is NO such thing as over-priced or gouging or similar connotations as long as someone willingly pays the price. Just because YOU might not have the means to afford something doesn't make it overpriced, just expensive

In that aspect, Korth comes to mind
 
Well in my opinion the most over priced hand gun has got to be the big caliber derringer to small to to be effective over 5 feet to much recoil and worst of all harder to conceal than my Kel-Tec 380.

But I do like the cowboy thing, and want another I said over priced and semi-useless but I didn't say I didn't like:D
Mace

Happieness is a belt fed weapon and lots of ammo
 
In reference to some of the 1911's and price, be sure you are comparing apples to apples in terms of small part material.
Most sub $1,000 1911's are going to have MIM (metal injection molding) small parts and maybe larger parts made from it too.
One popular 1911 that is around the $1,000 mark not only has MIM small parts, but also the hammer, thumb safety, and slide stop.
In comparison the stainless Dan Wesson Valor has zero MIM, all tool steel parts.
If you took the $1,000 pistol and replaced all the MIM with machined / tool steel you would easily equal the price of the DW Valor.
Les Baer Ultimate Tactical carry is another 1911 that has zero MIM, is fitted to tight tolerances, and can be had for around $1,800
In the 1,000 price range Colt has the least MIM, use is limited to about 4 small parts, not the hammer, thumb safety, or slide stop.
I realize the price for the MIM free 1911's may seem steep compared to simply buying a Glock, but if you are going to compare value make sure what you are comparing is equivalent; the MIM parts are much cheaper to make.
For me the DW, Les Baer, or Colt are a better value than a 1911 pistol costing $800-$1,000 that's infested with MIM.
 
Manufacturers sell for what they can get away with; in other words, what people are willing to pay. Many factors go into this.

Some people buy high dollar things, just because they can. Some, have to shop for bang for the buck bargains, some are in the middle. Some will mortgage the farm to get the gun they want and some won't buy until they save up the cash. We do things for different reasons.

The only thing that really matters, is what a gun is worth to you, and if you have the means to pay for it.
 
I have read a few different places that it cost between 20 something and 40 dollars to produce a Glock. I cant speak for the validity of the sources but certainly plastic is cheaper than steel in producing a given item.

I would expect the plastic craptastic overall to have the lowest actual production price.
 
There is NO such thing as over-priced or gouging or similar connotations as long as someone willingly pays the price. Just because YOU might not have the means to afford something doesn't make it overpriced, just expensive
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I disagree with this statement. Regardless of how much you can spend, if a restaurant charged you 10 bucks for a toothpick, this would be overpriced. The price of a product used to be the equivalent of labour time that was bundled in it (the labour time to dig iron ore, to purify it, to transport it, to make it into a gun, ...). Due to our modern economic system (that has some very flawed concepts in it) this is not always true. But if two manufacturers produce high quality pistols and one runs for 5 times the price (compare a CZ with the previously mentioned manufacturers) I'd be confident to call them overpriced.

Other nominees:
H&K USP -- Excellent pistol imho, but double the price of a Glock? :confused:
(and a lot of other H&K products)

In Europe:
Beretta 92 -- I've seen they run for half the price in the US... most pistols here cost 25% more then in the US, but €1000+ for a pistol made from second grade steel gets my overpriced mark.
 
The HK USP Compact that I used to own was very overpriced. Unfortunately I didn't realize it until after i purchased it.
 
I would expect the plastic craptastic overall to have the lowest actual production price.
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First, change price to COST; secondly - even if it did have the lowest production cost, that has nothing to do with the retail price or the expected value

In a beer or a soft drink, the container costs more than the contents - so what? The value is the content and what you pay for.

It doesn't matter if it costs Gaston $52/Glock - there is R&D, marketing, discounts to groups, all of the other costs and then PROFIT - called capitalism. Just because someone doesn't think it is "fair" or whatever does not mean it isn't worth the price charged

Take a gallon of water to some barren wasteland and discover just how valuable it can be........
 
38splfan said:
Hello all,

It seems that when it comes to price, the various 1911 makers are racing to out-price one another. It's almost unreal what some of them cost. I was able to pick up a used Colt Combat Commander for a little bit less than some of the Rock Island guns at Cabela's a few days ago. Even Para-Ordnance's entry level gun, the GI Expert, was over $600. The higher-end Kimber and P-O pistols were well over $1000. I've seen Wilson Combat guns go over $2500.

With the tooling and technology available, I don't see why no one can produce a reliable, basic, American-made 1911 in the $400 to $500 range.

Regards,
Johnnie T.
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Isn't that the new Ruger 1911? The price is in the $600 range but I'm sure they will eventually come down a bit.
 
I agree that there are A LOT of things that are overpriced. Not just guns, it happens everywhere. However, it is great taht we live in a country that we are not forced to purchase things we dont want (um..ahh..OBAMACARE??).

Anyhow, someone could make the arguement that A-Rod is not worth 25 million a year. The act of playing ball certainly does not warrant it. However, how much revenue does he bring to the organization with tickets sales and all his merchandising.

The way I see it, is that if you leave the gunstore and feel good, you got a good deal!

Those who know the price of everythig and the value of nothing are doomed to not feel good about any purchase!!

-George
 
Ive paid almost $1000 for a Kimber that didnt work, and Ive paid $350 for Glocks that have. Which was the most overpriced?

My buddy paid $2500 each for a couple of Night Hawks and they dont work or shoot any better than my $750 SIG P226's or P229's or $600 Colts, and I shot/shoot them better than he shoots his Night Hawks. What makes the Night Hawks worth 3-4 times the money?

I suppose its what youre willing to pay, for what you think youre getting for the money.
 
I think with the highend 1911s, there are some examples of the law of diminishing return. There are some that are significantly better than others too.

Overall, I feel alot of the H&K products are priced a little high.
 
"There is NO such thing as over-priced or gouging or similar connotations as long as someone willingly pays the price. Just because YOU might not have the means to afford something doesn't make it overpriced, just expensive"

I disagree with this statement. The price of a product used to be the equivalent of labour time that was bundled in it (the labour time to dig iron ore, to purify it, to transport it, to make it into a gun, ...). Due to our modern economic system (that has some very flawed concepts in it) this is not always true. But if two manufacturers produce high quality pistols and one runs for 5 times the price (compare a CZ with the previously mentioned manufacturers) I'd be confident to call them overpriced.
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The flaws are created when we get away from Capitalism.

If I make a gun for $500, put a $3,000 price on it and sell it, good for me. People apparently see $3,000 of value in it.
 
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