What is "good shooting", at 50 feet? (handgun)

I think 3" groups (as in, keeping all of one's shots within a 3" circle) at 25 yards is a good bit more than "reasonable," if we're talking about one-handed, unsupported. The standard NRA slow fire bullseye target (B-16) 9-ring is only a little bit larger than that, so someone shooting at that level would likely be scoring 95 or better in Slow fire (and, typically, a good bit higher than that in the Timed and Rapid fire stages), which is Master bordering on High Master territory. I've shot in two bullseye leagues for years and have only known two current Masters, and two individuals who I assume were High Masters at one time (Don Hamilton and Babe Magnin). My hat is off to anyone here who can honestly shoot that well, especially with open sights. (Maybe I need to find a higher level of competition?).

I agree 100% with this statement. If you are consistently shooting 3" groups at 25 yards no flyers you are better shooting better than 98% to 99% of handgun owners.

That is not "good shooting" that is "great shooting"...... :eek:
 
FlyFish said:
I think 3" groups (as in, keeping all of one's shots within a 3" circle) at 25 yards is a good bit more than "reasonable," if we're talking about one-handed, unsupported.

I should clarify: My standard of 3"@25 unsupported assumed the shooter could shoot how they shoot best (1- or 2-handed), not be subject to time limits or any other pressure, and the group didn't have to group perfectly around the center of the bullseye. It's also my standard for "good, but not excellent", which, IMO, is a bit beyond "reasonable".

I do agree, though, that consistently shooting 3"@25 for score under match conditions & pressure is a 'nuther matter entirely.
 
I find a fast moving snake to be a very difficult target.

What is 'good'?

One of the best ways to determine this is to compete. Try bullseye if you want set distance at stationary targets, bowling pins for accuracy and transitions while under time pressure or IDPA for defensive pistol/revolver shooting, movement of shooter and targets, time pressure, tactical instruction, etc. When you compete, you will see what “good” looks like and find out what good is in that particular discipline.
 
i am a proponent of Bulls eye shooting. It teaches fundamentals and shows problems. It allows the shooter to diagnose bad techniques and correct them.

For practical accuracy, If you hold all of your rounds on an 8 inch paper plate then that is effective shooting. The 8 inch circle is the kill zone for most large varmints.

When prepping for a hunt my practice is to determine the distance I can hold on the pie plate for each shooting position. I then deduct about 10% to determine the ranges at which I will shoot at a game animal.

This technique could be and effective method for determining your self defense accuracy.

When coaching a shooter, The first question I ask is what are you shooting at. Generally the shooter reply's the "the Target". I then get them to concentrate on hitting the intersection of the X. Once they start thinking in terms of the smallest point, their groups tighten and their accuracy improves.
 
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