Redworm said:
People need to realize that urban life is different from rural life. What works in the boonies does not work in Chicago and suggesting that city-dwelling liberals should live their lives as the farm boys do is going to do more harm than good.
Are you then suggesting that us farm boys should live our lives as the city-dwelling liberals do? That is going to do more harm than good.
Redworm said:
Are nine year olds not "the people"? We don't allow them to carry in public nor should we ever. That's gun control.
Yes it is. Up until the late 60's it wasn't uncommon to see 9 and 10 year olds walking, on bikes, or riding the bus from Long Beach, CA. to Pasadena or Saugus-Newhall or San Fernando Valley with their rifles, just to go rabbit hunting. In the span of ten years, that all changed.
And you call that good?
Redworm said:
Are convicts not "the people"? We don't allow them to own guns in prison. That's gun control.
We have never allowed people in jail or prisons to have their guns. That's hardly gun control. What is gun control is that before the 1968 GCA, any felon who had completed their debt to society were allowed guns.
Since then, not only are violent felons classified as "prohibited persons,"
any felony is so classed. And make no mistake, since then, more and more acts that were classed as misdemeanors are now felonies. Should we get into certain misdemeanors that move you onto the list of "prohibited persons?"
SteelCore said:
That's why it's vital that the NRA start fighting to roll back some of these laws. The import bans, the 1986 full-auto ban...there's plenty of work to be done. But the NRA isn't making any effort to roll back these laws! Why not?
I agree in principle, we need to take the offensive. The problem (and why the NRA hasn't) is that the 2A is not a Judicially recognized fundamental right. Should Parker go before the SCOTUS and they affirm Parker, then we will have something to fight with. Then we can begin rolling back certain Federal laws. Then we can get to a point where it's incorporated into the 14th and then we go after the States.
None of this can happen unless/until the Supreme Court gets off it's duff and makes a decision. Is it
is or is it
ain't?
On this, I'm with Oldphart. Let's get it done and over with.
Now as for actual compromise...
No more!
I don't really care if what happened in the past was a direct taking or some sort of real compromise. The point is that we are much less free than we were.
The pendulum has swung, gents (and ladies). All we have to do is to not snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.