What is a "Hardcast" bullet?

Old Grump, I have carried my Ruger Redhawk .44 mag. in a modified Uncle Mike's shoulder rig for many a day and mile with comfort.
As for the .357 against bears, methinks he would be better off trading that for some good track shoes.
 
The most dangerous predator you are likely to encounter...

In the woods or out of them walks on two legs and wears human skin.

Therefore, packing a M60 is not a bad choice, especially if it is your only gun, and so, by definition, better than no gun.

Reality check. Anything less than a 44 magnum in a handgun is just whizzing in the wind against any bear, black brown whatever. Of course you could always use what you have in mind to shoot yourself behind the ear to end the agony. That's assuming you can get the gun up to your head while being attacked by a bear which is highly doubtful.

If your going to be spending time in bear country do the sensible thing and get your hands on a 44 magnum in a three or four inch barrel. That way you'll at least have a fighting chance of surviving a bear attack should it happen.

I disagree, emphaticaly! Unless that is sarcasm, (and starting it with "Reality check" leads me to think otherwise), I have to strongly disagree with that advice. Other smaller guns are far from useless, and for many people, a short barrel .44 mag is too much gun. Too much gun to practice enough with, to reach the level where the one or two shots you are likely to get with that much gun are able to be delivered effectively. And using downloaded, more controlable ammo negates the advantage of .44 Mag power.

Also, too much gun for some to pack around all day, and therefore more likely to be in camp, when needed elsewhere. If you are an experienced .44 mag shooter, if you are Elmer Keith, a 4inch .44 mag is dandy. But if you're not, some people won't be able to handle it. And a gun you can't manage is worse than no gun at all.

Not too long ago, one fellow killed an attacking black bear with a 9mm. Calibers lighter than .44 Mag are far from useless as last ditch defense. And if you aren't hunting the bear, using a handgun on any of them must be a last ditch defense.

Black bears are seldom agressive to the point of pursuit if you give ground, but when they are, they are! But you are much more likely to run into a dangerous human, unless you are way backcountry, and if you meet one there (or more than one), the only help is what you have handy.

I would carry a .44 mag, but then I have several and shoot them more than just a bit. And I would also pack a full size gun, 6" or longer barrel. I'd put up with the extra weight, myself, against the slim chance I would actually need it. Because if I truly do need it, I'll need every possible advantage I can get. But thats just me. I certainly wouldn't feel unarmed or totally defenseless with any service caliber or larger handgun, with proper ammo as a weapon of last resort.

At the risk of blasphmey in the handgun forum, most folks are actually better off (from an effectivness standpoint) with a short barrel pump 12ga and some slugs, for final argument against bears. It also has the advantage of being almost as effective in the hands of a less well trained hiking partner than a short barrel .44 magnum, or any handgun would be, really.

The down side is the size and weight of the gun and ammo, as a percentage of the camp gear you already pack.

Carry your M60, and have (at least) a cylinder worth of each ammo, hardcast SWC and 125gr JHP, and you have it covered as well as you can. I love speedloaders, and they don't take up much room, either!
 
i too often go camping in bear country. i've never seen one, but i know they're up there. i have seen them stuffed up at the outfitter's lodges, that they claim they shot up there. they look to be in the 300-400 lb range. of the firearms i have, that i think would be the best choices for taking with me, what do you guys think i would be best suited to have. i have a .45 acp, a .410 auto shotgun, i have some mosins and some mausers, but they are bolts, and don't give me much confidence in a follow up shot. i do have a m95, which can get a 205gr bullet at about 2500 ft/s and is a straight pull bolt, so the action is pretty fast. but still. i also have a 41 ae, that can get 210 gr bullet up to about 1000 ft/s. i do reload for all these, except the shotgun. i'm still trying to find some reliable data for the 8 x 56R. so i do have some options. what do you guys think? don't be scared to tell me, if i need to think about getting a 44 mag. because i can always just use it as a "good" justification for getting one. i currently don't own any revolvers, i have before, but nothing more than a 38.
 
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Amp, +1 on the 12-gauge with slugs. We've got a Mossberg 500, and bring it loaded with slugs when we're camping in bear country. I'd definitely rather go up against a bear with that than with any handgun.

But we won't necessarily be carrying it *everywhere*. Long guns are big; if I'm going to the john, I'm not lugging the 12-gauge along with me. So I figure it's best to also have something that I will have with me everywhere. I carry a handgun (usually my M60) every time I leave the house, except on the rare occasions when I'm going somewhere where concealed carry is legally forbidden. These days, I feel undressed without it. So I know I won't leave it behind for "convenience". :-)
 
I spent 45 years hiking, fishing and hunting (archery) in the Sierras, Trinities and lower Cascades. If I armed myself it was for cougar or two legged varmints. I've seen more bears up close than you can imagine in that time, they were never a problem.

When I went in the back country I usually carried a .22lr Beretta 21A for emergencies due to it's low weight. In camp I had my GP100, and I used HP ammo. 98% of the time I was unarmed. You just don't run into problem bears in California that much, or in my case at all. They are used to humans and don't see them as a threat so much. It's not Alaska.

Now I can't say the same for where I live now. I carry a .41mag with BB hardcasts only.

As far as the OP, your J-frame is fine. Again your biggest threat is another human or a cat. Anyone who says different doesn't know the Sierras.
 
Again your biggest threat is another human or a cat.

I'm in agreement. I have a cabin up in the NM mountains. Lots of black bears, and they've never mauled a man since records have been kept in the area. They're always hungry and curious, but never aggressive. Cougars, on the other hand, will stalk and attack people. They're so stealthy that they can be on you before you even know they're around.

And these days, redneck pot growers in the secluded areas of national forests are becoming a problem, too.
 
(nod) However, I don't need to worry about making special arrangements for either the two-legged varmints or the mountain lions. For them, plain old hollow point SD ammunition is fine -- the kind I already carry routinely. When I'm hiking or camping, I usually upgrade from the .38 +P I use in town to standard .357 JHP defense rounds, just to gain an edge on the big cats, but it probably isn't necessary.

I agree with everyone that the black bears that we see south of the Cascades are rarely a threat. I'd been hiking and camping in the Sierras and coastal ranges for over 20 years before I got my first gun, though. I've encountered bears. *None* of them attacked or seemed remotely interested in attacking. There are perhaps one or two reports of a bear attack on humans each year in that region, however, so it *can* happen. Since I now carry a gun, it seems sensible to be prepared just in case.
 
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