What is a conventional hand gun?

A Steyr-Hahn 1911 is fed by clips also:D


Here is what they look like
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I am sorry I could not help it. But when did anyone expect the media to report anything with any real accuracy.

I think what they are trying to get across, but I may be wrong, it that the FN57 is a "Unconventional" type of firearm. It fires a High Velocity round and is fairly unconventional when compared to other handguns. The Cop killer bullet comments come from the FN57 being used in Mexico and used a lot to shoot Police wearing Level III vests without plates.

The Bottom line is anytime the media can shine a Bad Light on Guns and their owners its going to happen. If they can paint a gun as Bad they will. Look what happened after the 2 Kennedy's got shot. It took a while but no more mail order guns and No more "Saturday Night Specials".
 
This is an excerpt from a news report out of America on the Fort Hood shootings...
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What's the source? I'd like to write the author and offer corrections.

I'm also curious about another point.
Major Hasan allegedly opened fire with a semi-automatic handgun, and a conventional handgun...
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Assuming that the "conventional" handgun is the S&W .357Mag revolver Hasan was carrying, most sources state that investigators have not confirmed whether Hasan actually fired the second gun. Media reports state that Hasan's pockets were stuffed with spare mags for the FN Five-Seven, and that he emptied several of them, but I'm guessing that the S&W was found with a cylinder full of unfired cartridges.

Two things are possible. The first is that the writer has a source who can confirm that Hasan used the S&W, and this source isn't talking to other media outlets. The second is that the author is guilty of poor writing or lousy fact checking. I'm leaning towards the latter. :rolleyes:

FWIW at the risk of starting a major thread hijack, my pet theory is that Hasan was attempting a form of "Suicide by Cop", and his intent was to use the S&W to take his own life if he was still standing when the Five-Seven ran out of ammo or jammed.
 
As a former newspaper editor, let me say this: Journalists are paid little, receive little respect and are expected to know everything about every subject. We are also expected to become an expert before deadline.

And people lie to us frequently. But those same people get offended when we print lies.

People need to wise up. Journalists do the best we can. The vast majority of journalists have little or no political agendas.

When a journalist makes a mistake, it's in print where everyone can point to it, be critical and feel superior.

Yet, those who are the most critical don't have the guts to even submit a letter to the editor, much less report the news.
 
If one reads the newspapers or listens to either/or/both the local and national news on TV/Radio, he/she comes to know that all facts and terminologies are not exactly correct all the time and at times, down right wrong and misleading.

We can not expect some reporter to be an expert on every topic he/she writes about. When it comes to guns, and even this Forum, I hear/read that people intermingle terms such as magazines and clips. One is completely different from the other but the terms are interchangeable in the mind of the unknowing.

It is the intelligent people that know not to believe everything you read/hear/see being reported. Life is too short to get wrapped around the axle about the quibbling of some reporter trying to fill space in a column. We all know that wrongful knowledge may harm our image in some of the public eye, and therefore it becomes even more incumbent upon us, the shooting enthusiast, to set proper examples and to help educate the unknowing public correctly and properly, without intimidation and name calling.
 
Also, the only handgun I know of that takes clips is a Mauser Broomhandle.
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Sam06 beat me to the punch with the Steyr 1911, but he forgot to include it's predecessor:




The Roth-Steyr Model 1907. Honorable mentions go to just about every pistol Mannlicher invented as well.

Actually, I find it surprising that, since Gaston Glock copied just about every feature he could from another design, why the Glock pistols don't use stripper clips to load.
 

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"since Gaston Glock copied just about every feature he could from another design"

Lord knows no other gun designer has ever done that before...
 
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