I saw a bunch of guns (like this one) with this caliber. Its not Nagant and its not Tokarev and they didn't have it at cheaperthandirt. What is it?!?!
What is 7.65mm?
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2cooltoolz
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From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) pistol cartridge is a semi-rimmed, straight-walled cartridge developed by firearms designer John Browning, for use in the FN M1900 semi-automatic pistol. It is also known as the 7.65x17mm Browning SR or 7.65 mm Browning. Introduced in 1899 by Fabrique Nationale,[2] the cartridge was first used in the Browning M1900.
Synonyms
32 Auto (typical designation in America)
.32 Browning Auto
7.65x17mm
7.65x17mmSR (SR — Semi-Rimmed)
7.65 mm Browning (typical designation in Europe)
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The .32 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) pistol cartridge is a semi-rimmed, straight-walled cartridge developed by firearms designer John Browning, for use in the FN M1900 semi-automatic pistol. It is also known as the 7.65x17mm Browning SR or 7.65 mm Browning. Introduced in 1899 by Fabrique Nationale,[2] the cartridge was first used in the Browning M1900.
Synonyms
32 Auto (typical designation in America)
.32 Browning Auto
7.65x17mm
7.65x17mmSR (SR — Semi-Rimmed)
7.65 mm Browning (typical designation in Europe)
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In the case of the Walther in your link, 7.65mm is the European designation for .32ACP. There are a few other 7.65mm pistol rounds the most common being 7.65mm Parabellum which is the European designation for .30 Luger. It is fairly common to see small European guns such as Walther PP-series, CZ 50/70, Mauser HsC, CZ-83, Beretta M1935 and other small blowbacks marked as 7.65mm instead of .32 ACP. Likewise, it is fairly common to see guns marked 9mm Short, 9x17, or 9mm Kurz instead of .380 ACP and 6.35mm instead of .25 ACP
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Walther PP
Walther PP
Type Semi-automatic pistol
Place of origin Weimar Republic
Service history
In service 1935
Used by Nazi Germany
Wars World War II
Production history
Designer Carl Walther Waffenfabrik
Designed 1929
Manufacturer Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen
Produced 1929-present
Variants PPK, PPK-L, PPK/S, PP-Super, PPK/E
Specifications
Weight 665 g (23.5 oz) (PP 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
660 g (23 oz) (PP 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
675 g (23.8 oz) (PP .22 LR)
590 g (21 oz) (PPK 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
590 g (21 oz) (PPK 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
560 g (20 oz) (PPK .22 LR)
635 g (22.4 oz) (PPK/S 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
630 g (22 oz) (PPK/S 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
645 g (22.8 oz) (PPK/S .22 LR)
480 g (17 oz) (PPK-L 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
450 g (16 oz) (PPK-L .22 LR)
780 g (28 oz) (PP-Super)
Length 170 mm (6.7 in) (PP)
155 mm (6.1 in) (PPK)
156 mm (6.1 in) (PPK/S)
165 mm (6.5 in) (PPK-L)
176 mm (6.9 in) (PP-Super)
Barrel length 98 mm (3.9 in) (PP)
83 mm (3.3 in) (PPK, PPK/S, PPK-L))
92 mm (3.6 in) (PP-Super)
Width 30 mm (1.2 in) (PP, PPK/S, PPK-E)
25 mm (1.0 in) (PPK)
35 mm (1.4 in) (PP-Super)
Height 109 mm (4.3 in) (PP)
100 mm (3.9 in)
110 mm (4.3 in) (PPK/S)
113 mm (4.4 in) (PPK-E)
124 mm (4.9 in) (PP-Super)
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Cartridge 7.65x17mm Browning SR (.32 ACP)
9x17mm Short (.380 ACP)
.22LR
6.35x15mm Browning SR (.25 ACP)
9x18mm Ultra (PP-Super)
Action Straight blowback
Muzzle velocity 256 m/s (840 ft/s) (PP 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
320 m/s (1,049.9 ft/s) (PP 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
305 m/s (1,000.7 ft/s) (PP .22 LR)
244 m/s (800.5 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
308 m/s (1,010.5 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S/PPK-L 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
280 m/s (918.6 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S/PPK-L .22 LR)
325 m/s (1,066.3 ft/s) (PP-Super)
Feed system Magazine capacity:
PP: 8+1 (.32 acp)
7+1 (.380)
PPK: 7+1 (.32 acp)
6+1 (.380)
Sights Fixed iron sights, rear notch and front blade
Walther PP
Walther PP
Type Semi-automatic pistol
Place of origin Weimar Republic
Service history
In service 1935
Used by Nazi Germany
Wars World War II
Production history
Designer Carl Walther Waffenfabrik
Designed 1929
Manufacturer Carl Walther GmbH Sportwaffen
Produced 1929-present
Variants PPK, PPK-L, PPK/S, PP-Super, PPK/E
Specifications
Weight 665 g (23.5 oz) (PP 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
660 g (23 oz) (PP 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
675 g (23.8 oz) (PP .22 LR)
590 g (21 oz) (PPK 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
590 g (21 oz) (PPK 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
560 g (20 oz) (PPK .22 LR)
635 g (22.4 oz) (PPK/S 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
630 g (22 oz) (PPK/S 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
645 g (22.8 oz) (PPK/S .22 LR)
480 g (17 oz) (PPK-L 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
450 g (16 oz) (PPK-L .22 LR)
780 g (28 oz) (PP-Super)
Length 170 mm (6.7 in) (PP)
155 mm (6.1 in) (PPK)
156 mm (6.1 in) (PPK/S)
165 mm (6.5 in) (PPK-L)
176 mm (6.9 in) (PP-Super)
Barrel length 98 mm (3.9 in) (PP)
83 mm (3.3 in) (PPK, PPK/S, PPK-L))
92 mm (3.6 in) (PP-Super)
Width 30 mm (1.2 in) (PP, PPK/S, PPK-E)
25 mm (1.0 in) (PPK)
35 mm (1.4 in) (PP-Super)
Height 109 mm (4.3 in) (PP)
100 mm (3.9 in)
110 mm (4.3 in) (PPK/S)
113 mm (4.4 in) (PPK-E)
124 mm (4.9 in) (PP-Super)
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Cartridge 7.65x17mm Browning SR (.32 ACP)
9x17mm Short (.380 ACP)
.22LR
6.35x15mm Browning SR (.25 ACP)
9x18mm Ultra (PP-Super)
Action Straight blowback
Muzzle velocity 256 m/s (840 ft/s) (PP 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
320 m/s (1,049.9 ft/s) (PP 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
305 m/s (1,000.7 ft/s) (PP .22 LR)
244 m/s (800.5 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S 9x17mm Short/.380 ACP)
308 m/s (1,010.5 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S/PPK-L 7.65x17mm Browning SR/.32 ACP)
280 m/s (918.6 ft/s) (PPK/PPK/S/PPK-L .22 LR)
325 m/s (1,066.3 ft/s) (PP-Super)
Feed system Magazine capacity:
PP: 8+1 (.32 acp)
7+1 (.380)
PPK: 7+1 (.32 acp)
6+1 (.380)
Sights Fixed iron sights, rear notch and front blade
2cooltoolz
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No...not a stupid question. I have two .32's and I had to look it up. Then I posted what I found. I'm a "look it up" guy. It's almost my job description. I realize most people just ask a friend. Sorry that I didn't act like a friend should act. ..
European caliber designations can often be very different from our U.S. caliber names.
The .380ACP, for example, has several commonly used European designations that are not at all helpful to a person who only knows it by its U.S. nomenclature.
Speaking of obscure designations for common calibers, does anyone know what caliber the 9x29R refers to?
The .380ACP, for example, has several commonly used European designations that are not at all helpful to a person who only knows it by its U.S. nomenclature.
Speaking of obscure designations for common calibers, does anyone know what caliber the 9x29R refers to?
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The one on Simpson's site is a .22 LR. Not a .32 or 7.65mm anything. Manurhin is the French company that made Walthers under contract, at one time.
"...11.35mm?..." Converts to .45", mathematically, but to find out what cartridge you need the case length. The .45 ACP is called an 11.43mm x 32mm. The 11.43mm refers to the bullet diameter. Mind you, .451" and .452" don't mathematically convert to 11.43mm or 11.35mm. They convert to 11.46mm and 11.48mm respectively.
Don't try to figure out why a cartridge is called what it is. It'll give you brain damage.
"...11.35mm?..." Converts to .45", mathematically, but to find out what cartridge you need the case length. The .45 ACP is called an 11.43mm x 32mm. The 11.43mm refers to the bullet diameter. Mind you, .451" and .452" don't mathematically convert to 11.43mm or 11.35mm. They convert to 11.46mm and 11.48mm respectively.
Don't try to figure out why a cartridge is called what it is. It'll give you brain damage.
7.65mm is a bullet diameter, like saying "32 caliber." And like .32, there are a whole bunch of cartridges designated "7.65" none of which is the Nagant, which is designated 7.62mm.
But T. O'Heir is correct. The description says 7.65mm (.32 ACP in the Walther), but the gun is a target model and is actually marked .22 LR, which is the quaint metric designation for, well, .22 LR. (Walther, for some reason, always used the English/American term on their .22 pistols, rather than the German 5.6 LfB.)
Jim
But T. O'Heir is correct. The description says 7.65mm (.32 ACP in the Walther), but the gun is a target model and is actually marked .22 LR, which is the quaint metric designation for, well, .22 LR. (Walther, for some reason, always used the English/American term on their .22 pistols, rather than the German 5.6 LfB.)
Jim
cavymeister
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Webleymkv said:
11.35x18mm or the 11.35mm Schouboe round
Here's some info: http://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/Schouboe/schouboe.html
Copy and paste aint my cup of tea tonight.
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WaR ~J~ CrImInAl
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7.65mm is a bullet diameter.. very commonlly used at our part of the world. see this picture.. this gun is one of the best we got .. it is on old ASTRA spain made FALCON 4000 size 7.65 where you can see the bullets and the gun called 7.65 
