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What if someone threatens to say you pulled a gun on them?
- Thread starter azurefly
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Harry Callahan
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GOOD stuff here, guys. I learned quite a bit these past few minutes regarding this subject, mainly just be careful about who knows you have guns and don't piss anyone off.
If they are threatening, they want something. Give in to whatever wacky demand they're making and call the police. Make sure you document the incident. Even if the police don't do anything about it other than take a report, it will at least be documented and on the record. And if you give in to the neighbor once, chances are they'll try it again (but the second time around there will at least be a report to document that they've made similar threats on prior occasions.)
invention_45
New member
Lots of good advice here.
It happened to me - TWICE.
First time I had to kick a roommate out. First thing he told the police (he didn't want to go, thus the police) was I had pulled a gun on him.
Two cops were talking to him, two to me.
They all had a conference, my two came back and asked if I had a gun inside (I obviously didn't have one on me) and I said I did.
That was the end of that. They told the roommate not to return unless it was with a cop to get his stuff. I considered that to be a fortunate result.
Same roommate later threatened to file a restraining order which, thanks to Brady, removes your gun(s), at least till the hearing, for the very purpose of disarming me. Unfortunately, he did this via voicemail. Since, with voicemail, both parties to the recording are giving consent to be recorded, it's admissible evidence in Florida. So, luckily, he shot himself in the foot by making the threat that way.
I hocked (for half-price) my Beretta Cougar and got a different-looking gun.
Now I'm a little more careful about who gets to see my new one. The list includes:
1 - my mother.
2 - me.
Bottom line is, you don't necessarily have to keep it a secret you own a gun, though there are other reasons you might want to do that, but you should try not to let anybody see it until just before it needs to be used on them.
It happened to me - TWICE.
First time I had to kick a roommate out. First thing he told the police (he didn't want to go, thus the police) was I had pulled a gun on him.
Two cops were talking to him, two to me.
They all had a conference, my two came back and asked if I had a gun inside (I obviously didn't have one on me) and I said I did.
That was the end of that. They told the roommate not to return unless it was with a cop to get his stuff. I considered that to be a fortunate result.
Same roommate later threatened to file a restraining order which, thanks to Brady, removes your gun(s), at least till the hearing, for the very purpose of disarming me. Unfortunately, he did this via voicemail. Since, with voicemail, both parties to the recording are giving consent to be recorded, it's admissible evidence in Florida. So, luckily, he shot himself in the foot by making the threat that way.
I hocked (for half-price) my Beretta Cougar and got a different-looking gun.
Now I'm a little more careful about who gets to see my new one. The list includes:
1 - my mother.
2 - me.
Bottom line is, you don't necessarily have to keep it a secret you own a gun, though there are other reasons you might want to do that, but you should try not to let anybody see it until just before it needs to be used on them.
I once represented a guy that this sort of thing happened to. He was charged with aggravated assault. We got the charges dismissed, but it was scary! This thing could have gone either way, and we got REALLY lucky (the scumbag didn't show up to testify to his lie).
The point is, if you're going to carry, don't get in fights with people, don't annoy people, and generally try your best to be the calm-little-center-of-the-universe! This sort of a lie CAN, DOES, and WILL actually work to get honest people into trouble for concealed carrying.
The point is, if you're going to carry, don't get in fights with people, don't annoy people, and generally try your best to be the calm-little-center-of-the-universe! This sort of a lie CAN, DOES, and WILL actually work to get honest people into trouble for concealed carrying.
Voice activated recorder, corded mini-mic, rewind the tape every few hours unless something happens that you want saved.
Uhmm... you might want to check your state laws on audio recording someone without their knowledge or consent. In Illinois it is unlawfull, I have no clue about other states.
NukemJim
There's nothing wrong with having it on your person as you go about your business.
If it is turned off ( and therefore useless for purposes of this discussion ) true.
If it is recording, maybe, check your state laws.
NukemJim
invention_45
New member
Check state laws, like said above. In Florida, you cannot record audio (it's wiretapping) without the consent of BOTH parties.
Carrying a recorder to record conversations surreptitiously and then expecting to use them in court: no, both a crime and inadmissible.
Recording incoming calls without getting consent of the caller: No.
Using voicemail in court: Yes (obviously the caller knew he was being recorded and gave his consent by continuing to talk).
Check.
Carrying a recorder to record conversations surreptitiously and then expecting to use them in court: no, both a crime and inadmissible.
Recording incoming calls without getting consent of the caller: No.
Using voicemail in court: Yes (obviously the caller knew he was being recorded and gave his consent by continuing to talk).
Check.