What handgun isn't accurate

There are a bunch of handguns that aren't accurate. I had a Berko 9mm that wouldn't shoot a 2 foot group at 25 yards. It was also straight blowback and kicked like a mule. BTW, the trigger might have been the only acceptable thing on that gun.

But accuracy is a relative term. To me, any gun that won't hold 2" groups at 25 yards is not accurate. I won't own em if bigger and 2" at 50 is even better. . Heck I practice 2" spinners at 25 yards offhand with my .22LR. There are many many guys on here that never shoot beyond 7-10 yards and consider 6" groups offhand at that range to be acceptable. To each their own.

LK
 
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There are a bunch of handguns that aren't accurate. I had a Berko 9mm that wouldn't shoot a 2 foot group at 25 yards. It was also straight blowback and kicked like a mule. BTW, the trigger might have been the only acceptable thing on that gun.

But accuracy is a relative term. To me, any gun that won't hold 2" groups at 25 yards is not accurate. I won't own em if bigger and 2" at 50 is even better. . Heck I practice 2" spinners at 25 yards offhand with my .22LR. There are many many guys on here that never shoot beyond 7-10 yards and consider 6" groups offhand at that range to be acceptable. To each their own.

LK
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I guess I'll have to take your Internet word on those 2" groups at 25-50 :rolleyes: yards. I'd have to see that!

I've seen a lot worse than 6" groups at 7-10 yards quit a bit, and it was not the gun.

Yes, of course you get a bad gun out of a batch or a defective barrel, but that doesn't mean that model is necessarily an inaccurate handgun
 
Elvishead,

if you would get into serious target shooting, like ISSF regulated matches, you would quickly learn that accuracy means to get a high score at 25 meters. To just be able to compete on a local level a nine ring average is necessary. The nine ring is 4 inches wide, now add shooter error and you will understand that for advanced shooters accuracy is important.

I really like my SIG P210. Wouldn't matter for most people who rather have a Crimson Trace.
 
Most of the guns I pick up and shoot seem to be inaccurate
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Handguns are fickle things. They "like" some people more than others. None of mine have ever liked me. They like other people a lot better and shoot much better for them for some reason. :D

I can't imagine why. ;)
 
The most inaccurate handgun I ever shot was a .22LR RG revolver. At about 8 foot range, it was almost impossible to hit a paper plate. For real.
 
To me, any gun that won't hold 2" groups at 25 yards is not accurate. I won't own em if bigger and 2" at 50 is even better. . Heck I practice 2" spinners at 25 yards offhand with my .22LR. There are many many guys on here that never shoot beyond 7-10 yards and consider 6" groups offhand at that range to be acceptable. To each their own.
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I agree. I consider anything under two inches at 25yds to be "accurate", preferably closer to an inch. If they can do 2" at 50yds, I'm a happy sixgunner.


I guess I'll have to take your Internet word on those 2" groups at 25-50 yards. I'd have to see that!
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How about 1 7/8" for five shots at 50yds? Left and center are 25yd groups in the 1" - 1¼" range (minus the called flyer), right is just under two inches at 50yds. Three different handloads. This sixgun, along with a custom 4 5/8" Bisley .44Mag and a S&W 629MG are honest two inch shooters at 50yds if the dude slapping the trigger does his part.
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You want to see it, get out to the range and do it yourself :p. For some reason I could care less if someone is skeptical or not. FYI, it's not that hard with the right gun.

Nice groups there Criag and I'll throw out a second vote on those grips.

LK
 
You want to see it, get out to the range and do it yourself . For some reason I could care less if someone is skeptical or not. FYI, it's not that hard with the right gun.
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I have some very accurate handguns. I've seen a far superior shooter shoot my two S&W PC N-frame .357s (627&327) at about a 1.5" groups (I hope so, for what I paid for them!) free hand at 25 yards. And they have been rather impressed with my two CZs also.

I'm happy with 4" groups (Not counting the one flyer every time) at 25 yards with my CCW. A S&W 638 Airweight snub using GDHP +P 135g. I'm not sure if that gun could do 2" groups at 25 yards, but I wouldn't be surprised if it could, it's just I can't.

Honestly, I have lower standards than you what an accurate gun is. I look at it from a SD point. If you can get it in a 6" group (The person, not the gun) at 15 yards, that should be good enough for SD perimeters.

TBS, I didn't think my "cheap" S&W Sigma 9 was inaccurate, but I'm sure you would. But I didn't buy it to do 2" groups at 25 yards. I can get a 6-8" group "rapid" firing as fast as I can pull the trigger with that gun at 15 yards with rarely a flyer. Good enough for me.:rolleyes:

My main point was, it's mostly the shooter, not the gun. So to buy a gun that can shoot 1.5" groups at 25 yards isn't going to make you a better shooter, I'm living proof of that!:D
 
P.38's are generally regarded as having mediocre accuracy.
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They are not easy to shoot well but can be very accurate. With 5 shots I scored 47 rings at 25meters with a service gun that I never shot before, first place had 49 rings at a military reserve state competition. With the recent German service pistol, the HK P8/USP I don't get much better, or worse scores.

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They are not easy to shoot well but can be very accurate. With 5 shots I scored 47 rings at 25meters with a service gun that I never shot before, first place had 49 rings at a military reserve state competition. With the recent German service pistol, the HK P8/USP I don't get much better, or worse scores.
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Sehr gut!
 
I look at it from a SD point.
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I see your point. You're right, you don't need 2" at 25 for SD. I don't look at my guns for SD. Heck, my guns aren't weapons either. Mine are tools to be used for hunting, plinkin, target shooting and God forbid, SD/HD. You can use a "2 in. @ 25" gun for hunting and SD but good luck shooting a "6 in. @ 15" for both duties though.

The Bersa I had was a great example of a gun that wasn't accurate enough for any job. NO ONE was gonna make that gun shoot straight by anyones standards. I'm sure there are other guns in that catagory too.

LK
 
I've never fired a gun that was less accurate than I am. I consider myself to be a competent, if not a great, shot. On an average day, firing one of my S & W revolvers double action, I can group consistently off hand at about 2" at 10 yards and maybe 3" at 15. Every once in a great while I'll do better than that, and perhaps, once every 5 - 6 trips to the range I'll cloverleaf a group at 10 yards. Beyond 15 yards, it's kind of a crapshoot for me because my aging eyes simply don't allow me to see the target very clearly (not to mention the front sight).

I'm even more accurate firing my 1911. I can see my gun's big white dot front sight better than I can see any of the sights on my revolvers.

Now, on the other hand, shooting my wife's S & W Model 41 is a wholly different story. This is a gun that is legendary for it's accuracy, and I'm lucky to get palm-sized groups at 10 yards. I also shoot it consistently low, to boot. She, on the other hand, can with the same gun often put 5-6 rounds in a circle about the size of a nickel at that distance. The gun is obviously accurate; I'm not, and it's simply because I cannot see the front sight at all. The damn thing just sort of disappears when I try to visualize it and I wind up sighting down the top of the barrel.

So, my point is that for me, a gun's inherent accuracy is less important than my ability to shoot it. I doubt that I'll ever run across a gun that's so inherently inaccurate that it makes me into a worse shot than I am.

Just as an aside, I have a friend with a Charter Arms Bulldog 44, a gun that isn't exactly reknown for its accuracy. I can get 2" groups with that gun at 10 yards, no problem.
 
FWIW, one of the most accurate auto pistols I ever fired was a friend's P.38. Oddly enough, it was not even a matched gun; I think it was put together from parts of at least 4 or 5 pistols. But it shot a ragged 1/2 inch hole at 50 feet.

Jim
 
I'd like to think my Rossi snub .357 is inaccurate,it has low profile non adjustable sights,and I can't hit the broad side of a barn with it using full house .357 loads.I actually bet it is accurate,but I only shot .38s with it onto paper,7 yards DAO was about 2-3in groups.
 
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