What guns do you usually recommend to beginners?
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Tommy Vercetti
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indeed but very few people are going to buy a pistol just to learn to shoot well,the vast majority don't want to own more than one gun, they want one gun to protect themselves in their homes and cars usually and could care less about target shooting, is it right? maybe not but it certainly is a reality, might as well face it
Parapliers
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Not to be argumentative but I've seen a treatment program for emotionally or mentally retarded children where they are encouraged to crawl. It seems that some children do skip that and start motivating by walking and it supposedly causes problems later.
My boss, a liberal who had never fired a gun, wanted to get a handgun for HD and true to form I recommended a .22lr revolver. He was a thrill seeker and wanted to start with something more potent. He decided to get a Ruger .22mag with the .22lr conversion cylinder. He was thrilled with the noise and fireball and recoil then he got down to practicing with his .22lr cylinder. He was a competitive type who went on to embrace the sport aspect of shooting.
A person who has no experience doesn't know what they might want that's why they ask for a recommendation. If they aren't asking I don't offer one. If they show up with a large caliber that's what we go with.
Not to be argumentative but I've seen a treatment program for emotionally or mentally retarded children where they are encouraged to crawl. It seems that some children do skip that and start motivating by walking and it supposedly causes problems later.
My boss, a liberal who had never fired a gun, wanted to get a handgun for HD and true to form I recommended a .22lr revolver. He was a thrill seeker and wanted to start with something more potent. He decided to get a Ruger .22mag with the .22lr conversion cylinder. He was thrilled with the noise and fireball and recoil then he got down to practicing with his .22lr cylinder. He was a competitive type who went on to embrace the sport aspect of shooting.
A person who has no experience doesn't know what they might want that's why they ask for a recommendation. If they aren't asking I don't offer one. If they show up with a large caliber that's what we go with.
The first handgun I ever fired was a Glock 21 (.45 acp), after I already bought it. (Yes, I NOW know never buy a HD gun before shooting it, but I was a Newbie and didnt know any better).
I had no problems with the recoil and in fact dont find it much worse than a 9mm. Maybe its because Im a big galoot, but the 45 acp just felt better than the 9mm.
I had no problems with the recoil and in fact dont find it much worse than a 9mm. Maybe its because Im a big galoot, but the 45 acp just felt better than the 9mm.
If were talking about home defense and only having one gun then you shouldn't even be talking about a handgun in the first place.
If they can only afford 1 gun and 1 gun only for home defense which seems to be mentioned a lot then a $300 Remington 870 Express is going to serve them much better and will be cheaper and then a $500 Glock 19.
I was just at an indoor range next to a brand new shooter. From 10 feet he was shooting 10 inch groups with 5 seconds between each shot.
Hand him a shotgun and the center of the target would have been a giant hole in 1 second.
If they can only afford 1 gun and 1 gun only for home defense which seems to be mentioned a lot then a $300 Remington 870 Express is going to serve them much better and will be cheaper and then a $500 Glock 19.
I was just at an indoor range next to a brand new shooter. From 10 feet he was shooting 10 inch groups with 5 seconds between each shot.
Hand him a shotgun and the center of the target would have been a giant hole in 1 second.
Playboypenguin
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Self defense does not stop at your doorstep and it is a bit difficult to conceal a shotgun.
Magnum Wheel Man
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SKANS... I did see your post, & this is way out of my "norm" but I'm in the process of a "real" gun type investment, buying 4 air soft guns in commonly carried configurations, all of which will be stripped & painted orange for "training" use... & I already have all the "real" 22's & 45 autos I think I need ( & most everything in between )... but a group of us will be doing force on force training, draw, point & shoot training, with several scenereos that would be difficult to dublicate with "real" firearms etc. & while normally, I'd think of the air soft guns as toys, they have come a long ways, & are now offered out of metal, & with blow back slides, & in just about every normal model style... I'm a betting man, & would bet just about any gun in my posession that "we'll" learn more real world self defense training from this set of "toy guns" than from a 1000 rounds shot through my 45 auto on a normal shooting range...
my point here being, just shooting a gun is good "shooting training" but only good for the type of shooting you are practicing... if we are talking about carrying, all the shooting in the world, won't help you present, or be able to hit the broad side of a barn, if you needed to return fire, while ducking for cover...
I think I'm done with this thread, because the parameters were too vague & too broad, & of course, we are all so opinionated
, & this is way out of my "norm" but I'm in the process of a "real" gun type investment, buying 4 air soft guns in commonly carried configurations, all of which will be stripped & painted orange for "training" use... & I already have all the "real" 22's & 45 autos I think I need ( & most everything in between )... but a group of us will be doing force on force training, draw, point & shoot training, with several scenereos that would be difficult to dublicate with "real" firearms etc. & while normally, I'd think of the air soft guns as toys, they have come a long ways, & are now offered out of metal, & with blow back slides, & in just about every normal model style... I'm a betting man, & would bet just about any gun in my posession that "we'll" learn more real world self defense training from this set of "toy guns" than from a 1000 rounds shot through my 45 auto on a normal shooting range...my point here being, just shooting a gun is good "shooting training" but only good for the type of shooting you are practicing... if we are talking about carrying, all the shooting in the world, won't help you present, or be able to hit the broad side of a barn, if you needed to return fire, while ducking for cover...
I think I'm done with this thread, because the parameters were too vague & too broad, & of course, we are all so opinionated
I love the .22lr for plinking, target practice and just all around fun but would I count on one for self defense? only if there was no other firearm available. As for the shooting sports aspect? I'd love to have more firearms enthusiasts out there, more importantly I'd like to have more NRA members but do I actually see that happening? no I don't, just think of how many gun owners you already know who won't join
Well I stated home defense, not concealed carry so my point stands about a shotgun being much better.
And if we are still talking about a new shooter getting their first gun then in my view he or she would get a lot of range time and/or a class from an instructor before thinking about going for a concealed carry permit.
Even so I'd say 9 out of 10 handgun owners never actually get a concealed carry permit.
And if we are still talking about a new shooter getting their first gun then in my view he or she would get a lot of range time and/or a class from an instructor before thinking about going for a concealed carry permit.
Even so I'd say 9 out of 10 handgun owners never actually get a concealed carry permit.
trigger happy
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I know quite a few guys who own more than a couple guns and few off them even own a .22