What Do You Use For HD?

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I'm curious to know what shotgun and what load other users use for Home Defense. And also what mods have been made to make your HD choice more efficient (tactical light, forend grips, stocks, sidesaddles, etc.)? Mine is a Mossy 500 Persuader w/ SpecOps stock, ATI Deluxe Heatshield w/ generic Ghostring sights (so I'm cheap!), TacStar 6 rnd side-saddle, Streamlight M3 light, stock forend (soon adding Hogue overmold), 20" barrel and a total of 8 capacity. Right now it's loaded with 12 GA 2 and 3/4 Law Enforcement Reduced Recoil 00 Buck. Nothing fancy but I like it. I know most of you are die hard 870 supporters (with good reason) but, being left handed, the Mossy felt better. So what is your choice for HD? What are its mods, if any? Why did you choose this weapon and those mods? Just trying to gain a better understanding of the versatile and venerable shotgun. Thanks
 
There is a pic of my Wingmaster here on another thread. 12 Ga, a two shot mag extension, and a Remington factory 20 inch rifle sight barrel. My prefered HD long gun is a Bushmaster shorty, but in the shotgun, I prefer Breneke slugs. I am not a big fan of buckshot.
 
There's currently a thread ongoing about why use a SG for HD. It's been quite interesting. The shotgunners have lined up against those of us who prefer a carbine (like my Colt M4 for home defense)

However, limiting my answer to shotguns. . . .I have a Mossberg 590A1 loaded with 7 #1 Buck shot shells in the tube, chamber empty, safety off ("my finger is my safety"), a Sure Fire tac light forend, and a side saddle with 5 slugs. I could load my tube with 8, but I keep it -1 in the case I want to immediately line up a slug for a longer shot/or possible shot against a hostage taker.

Why #1 Buck? Because it contains 20 pellets of .30" that can penetrate more than 12" of a home invader. The IWBA has concluded, after a good deal of ballistics testing, that #1 contains a greater sectional density than 00 or 000, and would cause more severe wounding in a human attacker. But really, you can't go wrong with 00 Buck either.
 
'House guns' here (3 of them) are Remington 870 Express 12 gauge pumps. There are three because of the layout of the house, we (my wife and I) don't want to be separated from a long gun no matter what. The shotguns are concealed when we are home and two are locked away in the gun safe when we both leave (not often). The third always travels with us in the car. All were bought used for $125- 150 several years ago and modified over time.

The guns have 18- 20" barrels with rifle sights (tritium inserts) and factory fixed ImpCyl chokes. Each has had its forcing cone extended. Each has a heavy-walled synthetic stock (SpeedFeed II) shortened to a 12 1/2" length of pull and fitted with a KickEez recoil pad. Each has a field length synthetic forearm and a 4-shot SideSaddle, sling swivel studs, and provision for mounting a Streamlight M3 light. There are no magazine extensions. These guns are set up to fit my wife, all 5' 4" of her. She doesn't like extra weight in front of the support hand or guns too long to handle comfortably. I on the other hand (at 6' 3") can 'crunch' sufficiently to handle the guns easily, it's far easier to shoot a shotgun that's too short rather than one that's too long.

Magazines are loaded with three rounds of Hornady TAP (red hull, 8 pellets of 00 buck at 1600 fps in a FliteControl wad), chambers are empty, SideSaddles are loaded with 4 Kent/Brenneke KO slugs. Sights are zeroed for slugs at 50 yards, buckshot patterns into 12-15" from all three guns at 25 yards and patterns coincide with slug zeros closely enough not to be a problem.

Both of us keep sidearms handy and there is an AR-15 carbine 'on the pegs' (hidden outside the safe) as well if trouble comes from farther away. We live on five fenced acres (hi-tensile electric on the outside perimeter, 47" stock fence topped by electric around the house) well out in the country, our nearest neighbors are about 300 yards away and screened by trees and outbuildings. The nearest paved road is 1/2 mile away. We keep the gates locked (padlocked) and have two dogs that are protective of us and "their" property. People don't wander around much off the paved roads hereabouts unless they are either lost, or looking for trouble.

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I use my baby...


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I keep it loaded with a mixture of Remington Sluggers and reduced recoil buck. I LOVE shooting her!
 
NEF Youth Model 20 gauge Single Shot .

Koplin shell carrier on stock held more secure by Electrical Tape going thru elastic shell holder postions #1 and #5.

Using slugs only.
 
Home Defense

Sensor Lights around the perimeter. Two big dogs on the side of the house. Brinks Home Alarm System. I don't have the Remington 870P yet. But I do have some big MagLite Flashlights around the house.
 
Well, if I had to choose a shotgun, my shorter-barreled 12-gauge (26") SxS double, probably loaded with #5 shot. At 20-30' it would certainly stop a BG in his tracks, yet not likely to go through the walls and hurt someone else. My first choice would likely be my .38 Spl snubby.


I have to agree with gdeal that a big dog is probably the best, but I've got several cats, so that's probably out of the question for me. Big Maglites (I've got a couple) make good shillelahs, too.
 
Pardner Protector 12ga with 5 rnds Hornady TAP, 5 rdns Winchester Super X Slugs, and 5 rns Remington Low Recoil 00 Buck (for the wife) on the sling.
 
All right. Sounds like all of you are well prepared for any BGs -lol- For those of you who mentioned AR-15's, man I'd like to have one but they're so darn pricey. We shoot the M16A-2's at the unit (and did during basic) now I think they are using the M4 because of its more compact size and maneuveribility (sp?). Our unit was issued those with AKOG sights (now come standard issue for those deploying, methinks). A good assault rifle, dogs, fences, lights, security system, etc. are all primo HD choices. HD isn't limited to just weapons but any precautions that can be taken against BGs. When I buy/build a home I will definitely implement precautions such as those.
 
Winchester 1300 Defender

12GA with the 18'' barrel and 8 shot capacity. I load mine with birdshot, since I live in a apartment I feel it is my obligation to my neighbors to try and not kill them on accident. I have also heard people say that birdshot wont kill people(BS), with 8 shots I can sure incapacitate the BG.:D
 
There's currently a thread ongoing about why use a SG for HD. It's been quite interesting. The shotgunners have lined up against those of us who prefer a carbine (like my Colt M4 for home defense)
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I use both, my 870MM and my M1a socom. Generally the 870 is for breaking glass strange noise ect., while the socom is reserved for an all out forced entry/home invasion, or SHTF stuff.
 
Ithaca 37 12guage 19" loaded with slug, buckshot alternating. Mossburg 500 18 1/2" loaded with 3"mag #1 buck.
no fancy accesories. just bead sights. uncle mike buttstock shell holder. I preffer the mossburg over the ithaca. It has proven more reliable.
 
Mossberg 590 (50665) loaded right now with 4 rounds of Winchester #1 Buck in the tube. The speedfeed in the back has two 1 oz. Brenneke slugs and 2 1-1/8oz. Brenneke slugs.
 
1956 Remington 870 Wingmaster. I bought it with an 18" barrel and rifle sights. It also had a 2 shot mag extension. I have added a Knoxx Compstock, their products are amazing at reducing felt recoil. I can now quickly fire all eight rounds from the 870 with no pain. The stock has quickened my followup shots and I have also added a 4 shot Mesa tactical shell holder, much better than those crappy plastic Tacstar sidesaddels. I also had the blueing coated with an OD Green ceramic coating to reduce the need for cleaning. All it is lacking is a Surefire forearm.

I keep it loaded with 7 rounds of 00 buck and 4 1oz slugs on the side. I also keep mine -1 so that I can quickly load a slug. But I am thinking of removing the +2 mag extension and adding a +1 mag extension so it will be lighter and the spring will not compress the shells as much. The shells that are in my shottie will not fit into my shell holder because the spring has compressed each shell a little bit. But they still cycle.
 
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