What do you like shooting a 10mm with?

RickB said:
Mine is pretty stock, but I did some trigger tuning, and had adjustable sights installed as I do a lot of load experimentation.
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if you dont mind me asking where did you get those wood grips with the Delta logo?

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While many fine single stacks have been and are being built, they're not for me if there's a double stack available--that's one big plus of 10mm just wasted, more or less, given you're not looking for an ultra thin gun for some reason.
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This is exactly how I feel, and the reason I never ended up purchasing a S&W 10mm auto. Not to mention, I feel the quality of my Stock (da/sa) is superior to that of the S&W. I like S&W da/sa autos; have a 659 9mm which is built like a tank. However, the trigger on the S&W's (ones I've experienced) are sloppy and gritty. They are night and day compared to the higher end Tanfoglio triggers. Also, with the Tanfoglio, you can further tweak the trigger function with aftermarket goodies, whereas with the 2nd and 3rd gen S&W autos, there's nothing available to upgrade them - never was!

Don't get me wrong, if I could pick up a good S&W 1006 for a reasonable price, I would just to have it.
 
if you dont mind me asking where did you get those wood grips with the Delta logo?
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They're Navidrex grips, I got them from Brownells but they're not in the catalog anymore. A woodworker friend drilled the holes for the medallions.
 
I've been shooting my Delta for about 25 years. Several years ago I added a Glock 29. Prefer shooting the Delta, but also love it's beautiful lines, so for the most part, it stays safed, and not being able to discount the utility of the Glock, it is these years, my go-to woods weapon.
 
RickB, thanks for the reply, adding the delta medallion was a nice touch


TheFineLine said:
I'm wanting to get a 10mm. I prefer metal framed. I'm thinking a Dan Wesson Silverback or maybe a Sig P220 Elite Stainless SAO. I like a finely tuned single action. I have smiller hands but recoil isn't much of an issue. What do you have; what do you like?
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since you have smaller hands one idea for you could be with a 1911, you can buy extra thin grips if you also replace the grip bushings and screws.
 
I found a nice 1990 Delta Gold Cup. I did replace the rubber wrap around grips with some wood stocks from Altamont. Now this is a range toy and I do not shoot super hot loads in it as it does not have a ramped barrel.



I also have a Commander size DW Classic. Now it does have a ramped barrel.



Now for those interested in 10mm, there is a 10mm forum.

http://10mm-firearms.com/
 
I have a G20 and I also have a S&W 1006, 1086 and 1076. While the 15+1 capacity of the Glock is nice, the slimmer grip and metal frame of the S&W guns make them my favorites to shoot.
 
the Delta can handle full pressure loads
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If full pressure equals hot big-name factory loads such as Winchester Super-X sure.

Hot Underwood ammo comes with the following warning:

Cannot be used in Colt Delta Elite or any other firearms with rampless barrel due to complete lack of case support.

Safe for use in all 10mm firearms with a ramped feed barrel.
 
So by consensus the Sigs are out. I don't have any Sigs in the collection so I was looking for an excuse. I have yet to handle a Tanfoglio. I'll go check one out at an lgs. I have a DW Valor that is one of my favs. I really like the features of the Silverback but I just got a S&W PC1911 Bobtail in two tone and it just doesn't feel right to get another so similar in a row. Silly reason but hey, I'm a little quirky. Maybe I could have Dave at DW make me a custom one in traditional two tone with the slide done with the duty treat. I wonder if their custom books are open yet........
 
I shot most of the common 10mms and some not so common. I have to have adjustable sights to take advantage of the range of the round. I have had an Javelina for years that still shoots very well. Recently bought a Sig SAO that just shoots lights out and has the best case support I ever seen. I also have a Ruger 10mm that has the best finish of any Ruger out there. All three of these are keepers.

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9x18_Walther said:
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the Delta can handle full pressure loads
If full pressure equals hot big-name factory loads such as Winchester Super-X sure.

Hot Underwood ammo comes with the following warning:

Cannot be used in Colt Delta Elite or any other firearms with rampless barrel due to complete lack of case support.

Safe for use in all 10mm firearms with a ramped feed barrel.
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the Winchester Super X 10mm is not a full pressure load...

Underwood sells a load specifically for the Delta: https://www.underwoodammo.com/delta-elite-10mm-auto-180-grain-jacketed-hollow-point/

and the loads that Underwood sells that they claim cannot be used in a Colt Delta are not even the hottest commercial 10mm loads out there which are safe for the Delta... http://www.doubletapammo.net/index.php?route=product/product&path=125_178&product_id=594

yes, I admit I’m splitting hairs here but I've never understood Underwoods disclaimer when other companies sell it as hot or hotter and besides the full pressure loads have to meet SAMMI specs to be sold, and they are not "hot" loads but original normal 10mm loads.

here is a load by Buffalo Bore ammo with identical ballistics as Underwood that actually endorses it in a Delta: https://www.buffalobore.com/index.php?l=product_detail&p=114

Im not convinced at all that the Delta cannot handle original full pressure 10mm loads.
 
Im not convinced at all that the Delta cannot handle original full pressure 10mm loads.
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If a gun is manufactured for 10mm it should be able to take ammunition meeting SAAMI specifications.

The problem with Underwood or Buffalo Bore is when you push loads to the maximum, occasionally a round or two is going to be way over the SAAMI pressure maximum.

This isn't Europe. "Proof" testing of firearms in the United States is voluntary. I'd like to know if Colt partakes in any testing before shipping out Delta Elites.

Here are two posts about hot 10mm loads in Delta Elites. The first link shows factory Buffalo Bore experiencing a case blowout. If you look at other 10mm barrels, the Delta Elite has the worst barrel in regards to case support.

I hate Kimber, but their 10mm 1911s have excellent case support. I'd fire Underwood or Buffalo Bore all day in these pistols.

https://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=445091
https://forums.1911forum.com/showpost.php?p=5507425&postcount=13
 
interesting, there is some good information in those links thanks for sharing. It sounds like the real issue is quality control from these boutique mfgs. that puts the Delta at risk.
 
interesting, there is some good information in those links thanks for sharing. It sounds like the real issue is quality control from these boutique mfgs. that puts the Delta at risk.
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Exactly. Saying you can't fire 10mm in a 10mm makes no sense. Too many people perpetrate that "myth" on the Internet. I should have been clearer in my original response.

Basically, most 10mm pistols outside of the Delta Elite are stronger.

I'm a bit of a revolver guy so I like to think of it as firing .357 Magnum rounds in a K-frame S&W and a Ruger GP100.

Both can handle maximum pressure .357 Magnum fine. One is going to be a bit more forgiving on an overcharge or a steady diet and it ain't the S&W.
 
Basically, most 10mm pistols outside of the Delta Elite are stronger.
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Ive heard that before but then I've also heard that the infamously indestructable Glocks have had as bad case support and in fact have blown up, not hard to find stories of that...
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2011/11/16/glock-20-10mm-auto-kaboom/

keep in mind Underwood recommends Glocks...

so I've never known what to believe on this issue.... I’ve never had a bulged case in my Delta but I'll admit I don’t shoot a lot of full pressure loads. I’ve never tried Underwood, but Buffalo Bore and Double Tapp have always shot fine.

My impression now is where they make loads at the maximum, occasionally some might go over. Perhaps the whole 10mm concept is pushing the limits of the semi platform which might explain why their are no +P loads out there.
 
My impression now is where they make loads at the maximum, occasionally some might go over. Perhaps the whole 10mm concept is pushing the limits of the semi platform which might explain why their are no +P loads out there.
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See that is the thing. For a real +P 10mm loading to exist, SAAMI needs to recognize it and set a pressure limit.

If you notice, +P exists mostly for calibers which were invented decades ago. For example, .45 ACP, .38 Special, 9x19 Parabellum, etc. From what I have read, this is because there has been exponential advances in metallurgy and firearm design. Newer guns chambered in these cartridges can take the +P higher forces and pressure than their vintage counterparts.

10mm was likely designed with the strength of modern metallurgic strength in mind while making trade-offs for reasonable firearm weight, and size.

There is a reason no +P loading exists for .40 S&W; it's called 10mm!

Every now and then you'll see some sketchy company selling 10mm "+P" rounds. This should be treated like +P+ in other calibers. It may or may not blow up your firearm.

For those out there who want a definitive listing of 10mm ammunition check out this awesome Google spreadsheet.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ak5OC6bPsjO8dEh6eGZ3N3hpUU13SXM5cm9pZy16T0E#gid=4
 
One thing is for certain, there seems to be no lack of interest in 10mm these days! Maybe it's just this forum, but there seems to be more 10mm fans (yes, I'm one of them) than .40 fans.
 
One thing is for certain, there seems to be no lack of interest in 10mm these days!
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It's quite a versatile round. I'm sure hand-loaders enjoy the ability to load .40 S&W equivalents to magnum-level cartridges.
 
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