What can you become a FELON for?
- Thread starter John/az2
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Yes...
I'm incubating another Flash presentation, and am looking for specific verifiable legal examples of laws that create victimless felons and deny rights to an individual for hurting no one but himself or the government's pride/ego.
For instance, does possessing a "post-ban" rifle with "pre-ban" freatures make a felon out of an individual in the eyes of our federal government?
Another: Does the mere possession of drug paraphanelia (sp?) without the drugs make in individual a felon in the eyes of our federal government?
Bring 'em on...
I'm incubating another Flash presentation, and am looking for specific verifiable legal examples of laws that create victimless felons and deny rights to an individual for hurting no one but himself or the government's pride/ego.
For instance, does possessing a "post-ban" rifle with "pre-ban" freatures make a felon out of an individual in the eyes of our federal government?
Another: Does the mere possession of drug paraphanelia (sp?) without the drugs make in individual a felon in the eyes of our federal government?
Bring 'em on...
J
Jeff, CA
Guest
Don't know if it's a felony or just a misdemeanor, but garage door openers manufactured after a certain date have to have electric eyes installed so the door stops if anything goes under it while it's closing. I recently retrofit my parents' older opener with new remotes; on the package, it quoted a federal statute that said it was unlawful to retrofit an older opener with new remotes unless the electric eyes are also installed. Now, when I fill out the "yellow form", I can no longer truthfully answer "no" to "Are you a fugitive from justice?" 
Do laws that are "officially unenforced" count? In which case, in Maryland it's illegal to have sex except between a married man and woman in a bed in a domicile in the missionary position with the man on top. In other words, all oral sex is a felony and the vast majority of Marylanders have committed felonies. 
(The law is completely unenforceable because of a court order, however.)
(The law is completely unenforceable because of a court order, however.)Christopher II
New member
Every time I think that nothing else about Maryland will surprise me...
Later,
Chris
Later,
Chris
The specialist
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In Mass don't stop o the side of the highway to go p. If you are caught you are put on the sex offenders registry and not allowed a permit because of it.
TheBluesMan
Moderator Emeritus
According to TFL member Carl Donath: in the state of New York, it is a felony to own this lower receiver which is physically unable to fire any projectile.
To quote Mr. Donath, "Mere posession of this harmless chunk of metal is a violent felony."
http://www.donath.org/Rants/NYAWBan
To quote Mr. Donath, "Mere posession of this harmless chunk of metal is a violent felony."
http://www.donath.org/Rants/NYAWBan
justice4all
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If you don't already have it, get this book.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0931580587/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_2/107-0905365-1695736
It's Ain't Nobody's Business... by Peter MacWilliams
It's a must read for any good libertarian.
Edited to fix link. - TBM
[Edited by TheBluesMan on 01-08-2001 at 09:09 AM]
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0931580587/sr=1-2/ref=sc_b_2/107-0905365-1695736
It's Ain't Nobody's Business... by Peter MacWilliams
It's a must read for any good libertarian.
Edited to fix link. - TBM
[Edited by TheBluesMan on 01-08-2001 at 09:09 AM]
TheBluesMan,
Yes I just re-read the NYS crap-o-law. It has listed as "assault weapon" features listed as. So if you have an AK type rifle, say a SAR-1, it could easily defined as an assault weapon under the NYS law, as they have more than 2 of the evil feature under this law. None of these were made before September 1994, yet thousands of people bought these LEGALLY in NYS.
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or
(d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slideaction; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
Please note that in NJ, a law similiar to the (d)(i) section of this laws was for all effective purposes was struck down by the NJ court, as being impossible to tell what is considered "an Avtomat Kalashnikovs type"
Yes I just re-read the NYS crap-o-law. It has listed as "assault weapon" features listed as. So if you have an AK type rifle, say a SAR-1, it could easily defined as an assault weapon under the NYS law, as they have more than 2 of the evil feature under this law. None of these were made before September 1994, yet thousands of people bought these LEGALLY in NYS.
(v) a semiautomatic version of an automatic rifle, shotgun or firearm; or
(d) any of the weapons, or functioning frames or receivers of such weapons, or copies or duplicates of such weapons, in any caliber, known as(i) Norinco, Mitchell, and Poly Technologies Avtomat Kalashnikovs (All Models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (Sc-70); (iv) Colt Ar-15;(v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR, and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9, and M-12; (vii) Steyr Aug; (viii) Intratec TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (ix) Revolving Cylinder Shotguns, such as (or Similar to) the Streetsweeper and Striker 12; (e) provided, however, that such term does not include: (i) any rifle, shotgun or pistol that (a) is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever or slideaction; (b) has been rendered permanently inoperable; or (c) is an antique firearm as defined in 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(16); (ii) a semiautomatic rifle that cannot accept a detachable magazine that holds more than five rounds of ammunition;
Please note that in NJ, a law similiar to the (d)(i) section of this laws was for all effective purposes was struck down by the NJ court, as being impossible to tell what is considered "an Avtomat Kalashnikovs type"
Caeca Invidia Es
Staff Alumnus
Utah Code 76-10-1204. Distributing pornographic material. (1) A person is guilty of distributing pornographic material when he knowingly:
(a) sends or brings any pornographic material into the state with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others;
(b) prepares, publishes, prints, or possesses any pornographic material with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others;
(c) distributes or offers to distribute, exhibits or offers to exhibit any pornographic material to others;
(d) writes, creates, or solicits the publication or advertising of pornographic material;
(e) promotes the distribution or exhibition of material he represents to be pornographic; or
(f) presents or directs a pornographic performance in any public place or any place exposed to public view or participates in that portion of the performance which makes it pornographic.
(2) Each distributing of pornographic material as defined in Subsection (1) is a separate offense.
(3) It is a separate offense under this section for:
(a) each day's exhibition of any pornographic motion picture film; and
(b) each day in which any pornographic publication is displayed or exhibited in a public place with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others.
(4) Each separate offense under this section is a class A misdemeanor punishable by:
(a) a minimum mandatory fine of not less than $100 plus $10 for each article exhibited up to the maximum allowed by law; and
(b) incarceration, without suspension of sentence in any way, for a term of not less than seven days, notwithstanding any provisions of Section 77-18-1.
(5) If a defendant has already been convicted once under this section, each separate further offense is a third degree felony punishable by a minimum mandatory fine of not less than $1,000 plus $10 for each article exhibited up to the maximum allowed by law and by incarceration, without suspension of sentence in any way, for a term of not less than 30 days. This subsection supersedes Section 77-18-1.
(a) sends or brings any pornographic material into the state with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others;
(b) prepares, publishes, prints, or possesses any pornographic material with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others;
(c) distributes or offers to distribute, exhibits or offers to exhibit any pornographic material to others;
(d) writes, creates, or solicits the publication or advertising of pornographic material;
(e) promotes the distribution or exhibition of material he represents to be pornographic; or
(f) presents or directs a pornographic performance in any public place or any place exposed to public view or participates in that portion of the performance which makes it pornographic.
(2) Each distributing of pornographic material as defined in Subsection (1) is a separate offense.
(3) It is a separate offense under this section for:
(a) each day's exhibition of any pornographic motion picture film; and
(b) each day in which any pornographic publication is displayed or exhibited in a public place with intent to distribute or exhibit it to others.
(4) Each separate offense under this section is a class A misdemeanor punishable by:
(a) a minimum mandatory fine of not less than $100 plus $10 for each article exhibited up to the maximum allowed by law; and
(b) incarceration, without suspension of sentence in any way, for a term of not less than seven days, notwithstanding any provisions of Section 77-18-1.
(5) If a defendant has already been convicted once under this section, each separate further offense is a third degree felony punishable by a minimum mandatory fine of not less than $1,000 plus $10 for each article exhibited up to the maximum allowed by law and by incarceration, without suspension of sentence in any way, for a term of not less than 30 days. This subsection supersedes Section 77-18-1.
Notice that it really doesn't define annoyance very well. It can mean (and has) something as simple as telling the 16 year old punks hanging around outside your apartment to get lost.....
Not much else here in Nevada that I could find.
It IS a felony to possess marijuana, although they are looking to change it to a misdemeanor.
iso1: If "annoyance of a minor" can be a felony, it must be h*ll on teachers! 
As far as becoming a felon for a minor infraction goes, I know this lady that actually removes tags from mattresses, pillows, etc. without a second thought . . .
Ayn Rand once wrote that the main purpose of most laws is to gain power over the populace. A government that abides by the rule of law can only exert power over an individual who breaks one of the laws. So by passing many, many stupid, idiotic laws, making it impossible to avoid breaking at least ONE of them, the gov. has increased its power over everyone.
As far as becoming a felon for a minor infraction goes, I know this lady that actually removes tags from mattresses, pillows, etc. without a second thought . . .
Ayn Rand once wrote that the main purpose of most laws is to gain power over the populace. A government that abides by the rule of law can only exert power over an individual who breaks one of the laws. So by passing many, many stupid, idiotic laws, making it impossible to avoid breaking at least ONE of them, the gov. has increased its power over everyone.