What caliber for first deer rifle?

jeepster, you have all you NEED for deer hunting. With adequate woods/hunting skills and marksmanship you can humanely take deer with the SKS and soft point ammo from Federal or others. You can also humanely take deer with your 12 gauge and rifled slugs (or 000 buckshot - that's why they call it buckshot).

Impersonally standing off so far that the "target" is treated like a paper target in a 20x scope is like an "engagement" from Desert Storm, the video of which was broadcast on TV. One of our gunships "acquires" two target tanks while hovering thousands of yards away. The gunner paints the target with a laser and fires a smart missle.

This whole idea of "needing" a high power rifle to drop game from several hundred yards is the equivalent of calling in an airstrike. For gosh sakes folks! Sportsmanship also should include giving the animal enough respect to meet it on its own terms.

Take the time to learn your quarry and to stalk it. Get close enough to see the quivers of its flesh as it fends of flies and mosquitoes. When you accomplish this, then then open sights with the SKS is entirely adequate for a clean kill and a shotgun slug seems like a bludgeon.

How many here have stalked to within several yards of deer or other similar game? I have. Bowhunters often do so. I know of a fellow who gave up bowhunting because he felt it was unfairly unsportsmanlike. He then hunted deer with a spear! Okay, that maybe is taking it too far, but compared to that, the SKS is more than adequate for the job IF you do your part.
 
KODB, I'll concede that high power rifles and scopes are needed on the open prairie or in lightly forested mountains where your quarry can spot you from a thousand yards and gets skittish at a hundred yards. But in New England, NY, PA, Michigan or other such areas you generally should be able to closely stalk big game. After all, this is not a matter of survival where efficiency is paramount. What do we hunt for? The art and craft of hunting in its fullest meaning or for target practice. For the latter we can use a 1000 yard range.

Okay, I should take further comments along this line over to the hunting forum.
 
Get an M14, you don't need anything bigger, and they are plenty accurate. They use FN FALs for killing elephants in Zimbabwe, so why do you need anything bigger than what is sufficient to kill elephants? I've seen them drop the elephants with them, it's quite convincing.

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I hope you find the caliber that's right for you. You're a big guy, and I'm on the small side, so what's right for you to shoot well probably wouldn't be right for me.

My big game caliber is the .30-06. It carries all of the oomph I'll ever need for non-dangerous big game at the ranges I feel comfortable shooting at. Others may disagree with my choice, as is their prerogative, but I shoot well enough with it that I don't feel the need for anything bigger at this time.

Sure, the .30-06 is as common as a dishonest politician, but that shouldn't necessarily disqualify it; I don't believe you can go wrong with the '06. If, however, there's any doubt in your mind about its abilities, maybe you should get one of the beefier magnum calibers.

Good luck and let us know what you decide to get.
DAL

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"I like big bore anything. I want to know some good, POWERFUL calibers that would be effective for deer and all around use"

That sounds like either the .308 or the 30-06. All around use indicates plinking and general target practice and that tells me "surplus ammo". In a bolt gun either caliber is good, in a semi-auto, the M-1 Garand can still be purchased from CMP http://www.odcmp.com or you get a commercial M-1A for twice the price. From what I hear of your requirements a Remington 700 ADL or BDL would be fine in either caliber. I'd avoid the temptation to go bigger or less common 'cause the ammo cost goes up and the typical all around use goes down.
 
You're talking about whitetail deer here, not rhinos and elephants. Plus you are talking about the woods Up East and not the Great Plains. And you're talking about a guy who hasn't neccessarily shot very much, not an old sharpshooter with calluses on his shooting shoulder.

An SKS in 7.62x39 is the rough ballistic equal of the old 30/30 round, which has taken many deer in the last century.

Not so powerful as to punch holes in rhinos nor to shoot into the next county, but enough to get the job done. And without neccessarily breaking the new hunter's shoulder bone in the process.

I'd say if the desire is just to get a new gun for newness sake, get a Marlin or Savage lever action 30/30 or get a new SKS and put a traditional hunting style stock on it.

Or a person could go down a size to the .243 or 6mm mauser and still have enough punch to score one shot kills on whitetails. Sissy? mebbe' so, but easy to shoot.
 
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