What are your opinions on deadly force?

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I honestly doubt knowing your state laws in this type of situation will change anything, for me at least.
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Wanna try again? Whats so hard about LEARNING? You have your lives and the lives of others to consider.

You want to act in that situation BELIEVING you are justified, hey it's your life...but to trumpet the glories of ignorance in something as serious as the use of deadly force IMHO opinion disqualifies you from owning a firearm for SD purposes.

Here let me make MY POSITION clear to all the LURKERS here who may not have their manhood tied up in this discussion...if you DO NOT study and learn your state's rules surrounding the use of deadly physical force should not be allowed to own a self defense firearm.

8 hours of your life, or less.

Reveling in ignorance is just wonderful, especially when it's coupled with disdain for candidates that advocate mandatory training for CCW folks. I can see why that position makes sense to many in the electorate.

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I know my state laws. funny how you keep going around in circles about laws..sounds like to me, you're scared to use your gun. So why even have one?? But again, think before you speak. In that kind of situation, if you have the power to stop someone from going on a rampage, would you just stand there? yell at him? tell him to stop? throw a t-shirt at him? hide behind bench?

Thank you, sit down.:rolleyes:
 
Quick question (and I apologize if it's already been answered)...but I believe it has bearing: How old are you, MyXD40?
 
"And I refuse to sit by, doing nothing, as criminals take that which I have worked so hard to have."

This is where I have a problem. While I would not "do nothing" I fear you consider anything less than using deadly force as "doing nothing". I would not use deadly force to protect belongings, but understand why others might.
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Well, I respect you opinion, but we just seem to see things differently.
In my opinion, when someone chooses to steal from another person, then they have also chosen to place their own life in jeopardy.
Our society is truely in a sad state when thieves can steal from others knowing that there is a very high chance they will NOT be met with deadly force.

"And I refuse to run away or hide while criminals invade my home."

Pride goes before the fall, or whatever that quote is. Nothing you said bothers me as much as this. It implies that your pride is more important than your life.
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No, you misinterpet...
It implies that the security of my home is more important to me than the life of a criminal invader.

I have no macho need to prove myself by putting myself in harms way if I can possibly avoid it.
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There's nothing "macho" about it.
And defending you home is certainly not "putting myself in harms way".
I don't go looking for trouble, but when trouble kicks in my back door, I will not run away so long as I have the means to fight.

I feel sorry for anyone who is so insecure that they would rather risk their life than be seen as a coward.
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It boggles my mind that the act of defending ones own home could be, by some folks, considered a sign of being "insecure".
Defending ones own home is as natural as breathing, and it has been done since before recorded history.
Insecurity has nothing to do with it.
I think some folks have been so beaten down with political correctiveness and so brain-washed by psychobabble nitwits that they have forgotten what it means to be a man.
If you call yourself the "MAN of the house", then it's your job to defend your family and your home.

I know I am a coward, I have run from people with knives and tireirons, I have crawled on my belly in a stream while idiots shot at me, and I would do so again in those same situations. Alas I can not crawl or run as well as I once could. My years of experience have taught me that running and hiding is a very underrated self defense tool.
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There's nothing wrong with running (or crawling) away of you had no practical means of self defense.
But if you had a pistol and someone was attacking you with a tireiron or a knife....then I don't think running away was the best course of action (but I was not there, so there's no way for me to judge).

Remember these....

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.


A coward dies a thousand deaths.
 
I think some people just aren't understanding where the mindset of self defense starts. The conscious decision must be arrived at long before the purchase of a defensive weapon, and much longer before the carrying of the weapon. One must come to grips in their own mind, with the fact that if they choose to carry a defensive weapon, they may find themselves in a situation where they must take a life to save a life.
Not everyone arrives at that decision the same way. And some arrive at it far too quickly. Legal arguments aside, one has to accept that they might have to end someones life. Once that is accomplished, then one can adapt their mindset to the mold of their local laws, specifically about the use of deadly force, and when it is justifiable.
A good ol boy from Texas might move to a different state and if he doesnt know he can't use deadly force to protect his property he might find himself in a whole new world of nightmares. Or he might not know about a duty to retreat.

With all that said, I think its safe to say that those who are most vocal about wanting to go out and shoot till slide lock on anyone who lunges toward them will probably freeze in that moment it actually happens to them. You dont got to worry about the ones making the most noise. Its the quiet ones you gotta watch real closely.
 
It's a last resort, only to be used when you are sure that you, or your loved ones, or a innocent person will either be killed or maimed. In those situations, I would have no trouble using it.
 
spaceman, you're a very wise person.

based on where I've grown up in life, I've seen lives taken infront of me. Death is nothing new to me. I have no fear in taking someones life who wants to take others for no reason (guy at mall killing random people). There is nothing wrong with protecting your life or someone elses life if in server danger.

The law is there to protect us, and sometimes go against us. Because of laws, if some guy is standing outside a coffee shop beating a womans lil hand dog, becasue the dog pooped on the sidewalk, then theres no reason to go shoot the guy to get him to stop kicking the dog.

It's all basic common sense. Know when and where to draw, and what to do. If you're that worried about the law, even after you know yoru laws, then you shouldn't have a gun, because you shouldn't waste your money on a gun.

I know my laws perfectly clear. But I also know I have a lawyer waiting for me just incase. I have plenty of money in the bank to fight whatever idiot decides he wants to try and sue me because I shot him after he decided to go on a rampage and take an innicent person or persons lives.
 
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