What are the best hand guns to learn marksmanship
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g.willikers
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Here's the revolver I shoot the most:
I wore out the first one twice, so I splurged and replaced it with a brand new one.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-pistols/vigilante-revolver
No kidding.
It has a very good trigger and sights, a rifled barrel for accuracy, and best of all, since you can shoot it at home for pennies, it will provide a ton of practice.
Sorry it's so ugly, though.
The original ones were more normal looking.
I wore out the first one twice, so I splurged and replaced it with a brand new one.
http://www.crosman.com/airguns/air-pistols/vigilante-revolver
No kidding.
It has a very good trigger and sights, a rifled barrel for accuracy, and best of all, since you can shoot it at home for pennies, it will provide a ton of practice.
Sorry it's so ugly, though.
The original ones were more normal looking.
Nick_C_S said:Since I posted the pic of my target shooter in post #15, add 600 to its round countSeems like I'm either shooting it, cleaning it, or loading for it.
That gives me warm fuzzies.
Shoot the beejeebers out of it, but take care of it and it'll last a while. I put about 70k rounds on my primary match gun (a 686) before I relegated it to being my backup gun, but even now, it runs fine.
I'll take care of it MrBorland. For starters: No hot rod rounds. If it's not published data, it's not going through the gun. If I want to shoot something hotter, I'll just break out the 686's. Most fodder for it is target level. It's a target/competition gun.
It's going to be around for a lot of years.
It's going to be around for a lot of years.
Guys, I'm in love!
I mean I don't have a lot of experience in shooting and my groups used to be around 4" at 7.5 yards and 9' at 15 with my 10mm G29, stock barrel a couple years ago.
Now look what happened with .32 S&W long at 15 yards out of this really excellent Ruger GP100 .327 Fed Mag.
I shot all 3 fitting calibers out of this gun yesterday: .32 S&W long, .32 H&R Magnum and .327 Federal Magnum.
While I also like the .32 H&R the .32 S&W long is just smooth as butter and unbelievably accurate. 327 Magnum was A LOT hotter and too be honest just too much for target shooting. I mean I have shot my .500 Magnum 2 3/4 inch snubby with 500gr hardcast, but the .327 Magnum is still too much, unless the subject is hunting or SD.
I already ordered 1000 Starline .32 S&W long brass. This will be my learning and training round for the time being. Lyman manual suggest Bullseye for accuracy in .32 S&W long. Excellent, I have plenty!
No flinching with this nice round either. I'm really glad I found a solution without having to buy another gun, for now.
I mean I don't have a lot of experience in shooting and my groups used to be around 4" at 7.5 yards and 9' at 15 with my 10mm G29, stock barrel a couple years ago.
Now look what happened with .32 S&W long at 15 yards out of this really excellent Ruger GP100 .327 Fed Mag.
I shot all 3 fitting calibers out of this gun yesterday: .32 S&W long, .32 H&R Magnum and .327 Federal Magnum.
While I also like the .32 H&R the .32 S&W long is just smooth as butter and unbelievably accurate. 327 Magnum was A LOT hotter and too be honest just too much for target shooting. I mean I have shot my .500 Magnum 2 3/4 inch snubby with 500gr hardcast, but the .327 Magnum is still too much, unless the subject is hunting or SD.
I already ordered 1000 Starline .32 S&W long brass. This will be my learning and training round for the time being. Lyman manual suggest Bullseye for accuracy in .32 S&W long. Excellent, I have plenty!
No flinching with this nice round either. I'm really glad I found a solution without having to buy another gun, for now.
Excellent! I'm glad it's gonna work out for you.
I get warm fuzzies from a good target from a good revolver, too.
Just a piece of advice on shooting anything shorter than .327Fed, though: Keep the chambers clean. Heavy deposits of crud just in front of a shorter case mouth can make chambering longer rounds difficult. You don't have to go to heroic efforts to get rid of that crud ring if you get in the habit of cleaning the chambers regularly. Just a patch of solvent, then a few swipes with a brush, then a dry patch ought to be enough to keep them clean enough.
I get warm fuzzies from a good target from a good revolver, too.
Just a piece of advice on shooting anything shorter than .327Fed, though: Keep the chambers clean. Heavy deposits of crud just in front of a shorter case mouth can make chambering longer rounds difficult. You don't have to go to heroic efforts to get rid of that crud ring if you get in the habit of cleaning the chambers regularly. Just a patch of solvent, then a few swipes with a brush, then a dry patch ought to be enough to keep them clean enough.
That Serbian PPU ammo is a real dirty bastard. Combine that with the bad ventilation system at this indoor range...
Next time I'll be at the outdoor range with my own loads. I HATE indoor ranges. Too loud, bad air, chrono doesn't work, usually less safety, caliber and ammo limitations, wobbly targets on a string. Not my world.
@MrBorland
Thanks for all the input. I clean all my guns after each trip to the range.
bullseye and a lead wadcutter will likely be your most accurate load. It's been a standard for a long time for good reason. It's gonna be dirty, though. You could try W231/HP38, as that often gives good results, too, and might be a bit cleaner. Smoke is mostly from the use of lead bullets.
When I shot target loads like this, I always tried to remember to throw a box of hand wipes in my range bag. I don't mind cleaning the gun afterward (it's gonna get cleaned anyway), as much I don't like getting filth on everything I touched.
When I shot target loads like this, I always tried to remember to throw a box of hand wipes in my range bag. I don't mind cleaning the gun afterward (it's gonna get cleaned anyway), as much I don't like getting filth on everything I touched.
Everything MrBorland just said.
I use DEWC's from Missouri Bullet Co. It seems to matter not what propellant is under them, in terms of accuracy (within reason, of course). MoBuCo makes bullets for 32's - although not a DEWC. I'm sure they shoot straight.
Getting back to the powders: I usually use Bullseye because its consistency can't be beat. But it is messy stuff. Like MrBorland said, W231/HP38 works great too; and it's cleaner. I load lots of both. I guess it just depends on my mood as to which one I grab and take to the range that day. And to further add to my confusion, I have also successfully worked up loads using Accurate Arms Nitro 100. The stuff is so clean, it makes W231 seem like Bullseye
Oh, and I've also worked up fantastic target rounds with AA#2 as well - but I reserve my AA#2 for semi-auto loads; particularly 9mm.
Like I've said before, at least in the 38 Special world, once you find the right bullet (and lead is best for accuracy - but that's another post), the propellant is hardly even significant. Any powder in the right burn rate range will likely yield good consistent straight shooters.
I use DEWC's from Missouri Bullet Co. It seems to matter not what propellant is under them, in terms of accuracy (within reason, of course). MoBuCo makes bullets for 32's - although not a DEWC. I'm sure they shoot straight.
Getting back to the powders: I usually use Bullseye because its consistency can't be beat. But it is messy stuff. Like MrBorland said, W231/HP38 works great too; and it's cleaner. I load lots of both. I guess it just depends on my mood as to which one I grab and take to the range that day. And to further add to my confusion, I have also successfully worked up loads using Accurate Arms Nitro 100. The stuff is so clean, it makes W231 seem like Bullseye
Oh, and I've also worked up fantastic target rounds with AA#2 as well - but I reserve my AA#2 for semi-auto loads; particularly 9mm. Like I've said before, at least in the 38 Special world, once you find the right bullet (and lead is best for accuracy - but that's another post), the propellant is hardly even significant. Any powder in the right burn rate range will likely yield good consistent straight shooters.
Amazon has The Pistol Shooters' Treasury for well under $90. There's one listed for $24:
And a quick Google search takes me to a copy at Larry's Guns for just $6.95. Can that be right?
BTW, another book well worth getting, IMO, is Lanny Bassham's With Winning in Mind. A lot of shooting well is just getting your head in the right place and avoiding self-liming narratives, at and away from the range. If I were to choose 2 books on executing the good shot, these would be my picks.
And a quick Google search takes me to a copy at Larry's Guns for just $6.95. Can that be right?
BTW, another book well worth getting, IMO, is Lanny Bassham's With Winning in Mind. A lot of shooting well is just getting your head in the right place and avoiding self-liming narratives, at and away from the range. If I were to choose 2 books on executing the good shot, these would be my picks.
books
In addition to the two classics already mentioned, there is the definitive "Competitive Shooting" by A.A. Yur'Yev and Ragnar Skanakar's "Pistol Shooting".
Also...try this article by Brian Zins:
http://www.brianzins.com/2010/06/11/grip/
In addition to the two classics already mentioned, there is the definitive "Competitive Shooting" by A.A. Yur'Yev and Ragnar Skanakar's "Pistol Shooting".
Also...try this article by Brian Zins:
http://www.brianzins.com/2010/06/11/grip/
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jason.jardine72
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Just sold my best of all time trainer pistol has the same grip as the 1911 it was the Ruger mark lll hunter target stainless 4.5 inch hunter target stainless steel 850 made Ade discontinued I bought it 5 years ago solid stainless the rest are junk except for the second best 22 in existence browning buckmark !! P.S I trained 20 people on that ruger shot the -CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED--CENSORED- out of it and sold it 5 years later for 200 more 5 Han I paid good gun!!