You won't notice a spit of difference b/t the .270 Win and the .280 AI inside of 400 yards (except a little extra recoil),
... and neither will the game.
If it shoots good with good bullets? You're done.
Red
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You won't notice a spit of difference b/t the .270 Win and the .280 AI inside of 400 yards (except a little extra recoil),
... and neither will the game.
If it shoots good with good bullets? You're done.
Red
And, there I am back with the 270. Haha.
USAF RET, There are (2) 280AI.
https://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-line-a-tips-faqs/133-280-changes.
I have both. There difference. One is Saami spec other is wildcat. Redding no longer makes die for wildcat. The wildcat, I fire from using 280 case other one I started with Nosler 280AI brass and I've never fire form case in spec 280AI. I'm now using Peterson brass in spec 280AI.
The problem Redding ran into was using same die # for both dies. 75428 for body die Category II 280 Remington IMP 40. 74528 Body Die Category 1 280 ACK IMP.
I'm not going to write anything about loads in wildcat. I build my spec for bull elk got 27 1/2" Lilja barrel.
https://www.redding-reloading.com/tech-line-a-tips-faqs/133-280-changes.
I have both. There difference. One is Saami spec other is wildcat. Redding no longer makes die for wildcat. The wildcat, I fire from using 280 case other one I started with Nosler 280AI brass and I've never fire form case in spec 280AI. I'm now using Peterson brass in spec 280AI.
The problem Redding ran into was using same die # for both dies. 75428 for body die Category II 280 Remington IMP 40. 74528 Body Die Category 1 280 ACK IMP.
I'm not going to write anything about loads in wildcat. I build my spec for bull elk got 27 1/2" Lilja barrel.
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Right to bear arms
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They are the only ones offering ammo, too. Hornady will not produce bullets, dies or cases, which is a big statement to it's viability. I had a 6.5-06 built back in the 80s. I had it throated for 140 Partitions to the base of the neck. Velocity was 2935 with H4831. Uses 06 brass. I also bought an expander that was much easier going from 25 to 264 than sizing down from 30-06.
reynolds357
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Hornady won't produce because it is competition to the 6.5 and most importantly, the brand new 7 PRC.
Winchester is more than capable of supporting the 6.8 Western. Hornady definitely not the only game in town.
If I wanted a 6.8 Western, I would buy the Rifle, 240 pieces of ammo, a set of dies, and be set until the barrel was shot out regardless of whether or not it "makes it" very long. The 350 Legend started out slow as well, but now it sells like Ice water in the desert. I am not even in a straight wall state and my local Walmart has six different 350 L ammo and sells all of it quick.
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Mike Irwin
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Mike Irwin
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OK, double rifles aside, given your criteria, I'd likely be looking to add something like a .338 Magnum.
The .338 is a wonderful cartridge and really suitable for anything in North America.
That said, the biggest problem with the .338 is that most of the available rifles are too light, which can really amp up the felt recoil. Adding weight, a muzzle brake, or a good decelerator recoil pad (or a combination of the three) can really tame the recoil.
The .338 is a wonderful cartridge and really suitable for anything in North America.
That said, the biggest problem with the .338 is that most of the available rifles are too light, which can really amp up the felt recoil. Adding weight, a muzzle brake, or a good decelerator recoil pad (or a combination of the three) can really tame the recoil.
I kind of found this interesting from the Shooting Times article.
"Then, in 2019, Hornady introduced a 162-grain ELD-X bullet loaded in the .280 AI, adding it to the excellent Precision Hunter line of ammunition. Factory data has it exiting the muzzle at 2,850 fps, just 90 fps slower than the same bullet in Hornady’s 7mm Remington Magnum ammo."
My custom .280 Remington, standard, not an AI, will run the old style two core 160 gr. Speer Grand Slam at 2907 FPS from its 24" barrel. Accuracy is superb at .75" or less mostly less. But I guess most here already know that SAAMI specs for the .28- Rem. are not at full potential. I use a powder no longer available, Winchester's Magnum Rifle. or WMR if you prefer. Winchester nickel brass, WLR primer the Speer bullet mentioned and 57.8 gr. WMR. Case life has been excellent with primer pockets still nice and tight after five reloads.
FWIW, I got similar velocities with IMR 7828 Ssc but accuracy was lacking.
Paul B.
"Then, in 2019, Hornady introduced a 162-grain ELD-X bullet loaded in the .280 AI, adding it to the excellent Precision Hunter line of ammunition. Factory data has it exiting the muzzle at 2,850 fps, just 90 fps slower than the same bullet in Hornady’s 7mm Remington Magnum ammo."
My custom .280 Remington, standard, not an AI, will run the old style two core 160 gr. Speer Grand Slam at 2907 FPS from its 24" barrel. Accuracy is superb at .75" or less mostly less. But I guess most here already know that SAAMI specs for the .28- Rem. are not at full potential. I use a powder no longer available, Winchester's Magnum Rifle. or WMR if you prefer. Winchester nickel brass, WLR primer the Speer bullet mentioned and 57.8 gr. WMR. Case life has been excellent with primer pockets still nice and tight after five reloads.
FWIW, I got similar velocities with IMR 7828 Ssc but accuracy was lacking.
Paul B.
That's funny right there. Whether you own one or not.
Was talking with my local LGS/Smith today. We were chatting about the calibers we have and rifles that sit in the safe and hardly get touched. Went into retail therapy (still there I reckon) after my son passed away over a year ago. Bought a lot of stuff he and I would have talked about or thought was cool. I reckon that's why I was looking for another new and shiny thing.
I was intrigued with the 6.5 Grendel. Built an AR and bought a HOWA bolt action, ammo and reloading dies. I have only shot those rifles a couple of times since I got them and they have been in the safe since. Been shooting 308 and 270 much more than anything. 6.5 Creedmoor now and again, but the other two much more.
Been blessed this year to be able to go deer hunting with his best friend quite a bit. No shots would be over 250 yards. One blind would be best suited for my 30-30 as the primary shooting lane is out to about 80 yards.
Might be getting to do an elk and antelope hunt in WY next year if the Lord sees fit and the 270 or 308 will be my choices for that as well.
As my emotions settle down (depending on the day), got me debating the need for much of what I have. I kind of bounce back and forth, but always go back to the 270 and 308. 30-30 is a keeper, because it's a lever gun and those are cool. And it was my son's favorite. Have done the same with pistols as well.
Nobody to leave anything to. Most that had meaning and a connection with him were transferred to the friends he loved the most.
I was intrigued with the 6.5 Grendel. Built an AR and bought a HOWA bolt action, ammo and reloading dies. I have only shot those rifles a couple of times since I got them and they have been in the safe since. Been shooting 308 and 270 much more than anything. 6.5 Creedmoor now and again, but the other two much more.
Been blessed this year to be able to go deer hunting with his best friend quite a bit. No shots would be over 250 yards. One blind would be best suited for my 30-30 as the primary shooting lane is out to about 80 yards.
Might be getting to do an elk and antelope hunt in WY next year if the Lord sees fit and the 270 or 308 will be my choices for that as well.
As my emotions settle down (depending on the day), got me debating the need for much of what I have. I kind of bounce back and forth, but always go back to the 270 and 308. 30-30 is a keeper, because it's a lever gun and those are cool. And it was my son's favorite. Have done the same with pistols as well.
Nobody to leave anything to. Most that had meaning and a connection with him were transferred to the friends he loved the most.
Yeah, seeing this more and more Pathfinder.
Thanks Mark, I would not wish it on my worst enemy. Not only lost my son, but my best friend.
Very cool. I can't even comprehend what that loss would be like.
And, here we go again. So, I took my No.1 to my gunsmith to help with the scope fitment. I told him this was one of my two dream rifles. The other one is a Browning BAR Safari. He says, well I have a BAR receiver off being blued. He was planning to build a BAR to sell. He asked me, "Do you want it?" I said, um, yeah! He said, "What caliber do you want?"
I immediately said 270 Win. But now, I am thinking. I have three 270s. I reload. And yes, I have mentioned consolidating calibers. But, anything I want.
I am also having him do a gray laminate Boyd's stock. He said the stock that came with it is cracked.
Open the flood gates ladies and gents. Stick with what I got or go wildcat or something.
And yes, I apparently have some major issues.
I immediately said 270 Win. But now, I am thinking. I have three 270s. I reload. And yes, I have mentioned consolidating calibers. But, anything I want.
I am also having him do a gray laminate Boyd's stock. He said the stock that came with it is cracked.
Open the flood gates ladies and gents. Stick with what I got or go wildcat or something.
And yes, I apparently have some major issues.
jetinteriorguy
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I don’t think a BAR in .270 is a bad choice. But I have a tendency to not want to add additional calibers to my loading bench. I like to keep my supply demands simple, especially in the current climate of component availability.
.270 Win, why not? I just find with multiple chambers of the same cartridge, I get along better reloading with multiple dies. I just buy one set for every rifle, and I try to keep my brass separate. I've ran into enough chamber variation between commercial cartridges that ammo that functions in one rifle will not in another.
Mike Irwin
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Why not a .35 Whelen?