What 30-30 ammo do you like best?
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ligonierbill
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Yep, this is a case where a simple reloading setup will pay for itself pretty quick. Performance not an issue, low recoil, I'm guessing you plan on firing many rounds. The 30-30 round is not at all hard on brass, and you can get some cheap bullets in bulk. Many powders will work. I'm using IMR-4320, which seems to have good availability. So, you meet your objective, cut your cost, and BTW, other than a bit reduced velocity, you won't give up performance.
Ifi had someone to show me how I'd get into reloading but I don't and it scares me. 90 something percent of kabooms involve reloading. I know a guy who has reloaded for decades and he has a mark on his cheek where he blew the loading gate off an 1886 Japchester. The company wouldn't discuss it once they found out reloads were involved and I don't blame them. I have one and its always worked fine with factory loads.
ammo.crafter
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30-30
Re reloading, where do you get your information about 90% kaboom?
I've been reloading for 50+ years and never came close to a mishap.
Follow directions, stick to manufacturers' recipes and all is well.
What will you be using your 30-30 for?
Re reloading, where do you get your information about 90% kaboom?
I've been reloading for 50+ years and never came close to a mishap.
Follow directions, stick to manufacturers' recipes and all is well.
What will you be using your 30-30 for?
Thanks COSteve! I've been looking for some cheap plinking bullets for my lever 30-30. I went to the X-Treme website & ordered 250 for $31 with free shipping!COSteve said:
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Kcub - Reloading is very safe if you're careful & follow simple safety rules. Reloading is the best way to get specialized ammo whether the criteria is cheap, fast, slow, low recoil, penetration, expansion, target, varmint, etc., etc., etc.
FWIW
Blindstitch
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I may have to consult my book but I believe i'm using 7 grains of green dot to push a 135 grain cast bullet. Shoots like a 22lr. Bullets are 10 cents plus primer and powder.
"...something that recoils less but cheaper..." Assuming you have a Win M94, it isn't the ammo it's the rifle. Too light.
"...where he blew the loading gate off..." Operator failure. Sounds like he used pointy bullets. Reloading, when done properly, is 100% safe.
"...company wouldn't discuss it once they found out reloads..." Voids most warrantees because the manufacturers have no control over people who can't follow directions.
"...where he blew the loading gate off..." Operator failure. Sounds like he used pointy bullets. Reloading, when done properly, is 100% safe.
"...company wouldn't discuss it once they found out reloads..." Voids most warrantees because the manufacturers have no control over people who can't follow directions.
If one does choose to reload, the precepts set up by the Army Marksmanship Unit should be followed religiously 
1. Make each station its own world. Lock the door like a photographer.
When you load the powder, do that and that only until completed. Let no one else enter.
If you stop for ANY reason, either notate it via an indicator, or be prepared to weigh each case when you return.
If anyone, especially a kid enters the room unsupervised, weigh 'em. This literally may save your life.
In this way, you resolve double powder loads...which you never want.
That's the single biggest cause for Kabooms.
Manufacturers are not exempt from it, and there have been a few cases of KB due to factory screwups, but they are few & far between.
Although Remington rimfire ammo is kind of famous for it...go figure...anyway...
Kcub is correct when he states the 90% or higher due to errors in individuals reloading.
Flat out, nearly every company has it in their manuals that if you use self-reloaded ammunition, the warranty is VOID.
if there is a Kaboom, you go straight to the company that made the ammo to pay for any damages,
so if reloads are responsible, you only have yourself to blame, or whoever made the reloads.
I love Leverevolution, but at the range, tend to burn up Federal 150-gr & Remington green box 150-grain due to cost.
Been getting the Fed for $11.98 & RemGreen at 13.98 from wally world.
1. Make each station its own world. Lock the door like a photographer.
When you load the powder, do that and that only until completed. Let no one else enter.
If you stop for ANY reason, either notate it via an indicator, or be prepared to weigh each case when you return.
If anyone, especially a kid enters the room unsupervised, weigh 'em. This literally may save your life.
In this way, you resolve double powder loads...which you never want.
That's the single biggest cause for Kabooms.
Manufacturers are not exempt from it, and there have been a few cases of KB due to factory screwups, but they are few & far between.
Although Remington rimfire ammo is kind of famous for it...go figure...anyway...
Kcub is correct when he states the 90% or higher due to errors in individuals reloading.
Flat out, nearly every company has it in their manuals that if you use self-reloaded ammunition, the warranty is VOID.
if there is a Kaboom, you go straight to the company that made the ammo to pay for any damages,
so if reloads are responsible, you only have yourself to blame, or whoever made the reloads.
I love Leverevolution, but at the range, tend to burn up Federal 150-gr & Remington green box 150-grain due to cost.
Been getting the Fed for $11.98 & RemGreen at 13.98 from wally world.
Just because you're not interested in reloading doesn't mean it's not safe or a good idea for others. You asked for advice and you got some. Don't like it, that's fine but criticize it and you'll likely never get another response. Internet BS you spouted aside, do anything correctly and it works well. Screw around with it and it doesn't.
Have a good day.
mxsailor803
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I'd actually like to know where you got the 90% kaboom thing is mainly from reloads? Reloading, when going by the books, its perfectly safe. However, complacentcy will get you in trouble. I usually use a x-treme bullet with decent amount of TrailBoss (designed for cowboy/action shooting) and recoil is like a .22mag at most with decent accuracy up to 50yds.
Pathfinder45
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Reloading is not for everyone. Some hunters and even shooters just shouldn't do it. Almost all my centerfire ammo is what I reloaded. I have much greater confidence in my reloads than any factory ammo. Those of you who reload know exactly the same thing. Not everyone who drives a car should change their own wheel bearings either. My advice for Kcub is to put a slip-on recoil pad on the rifle and try Winchester 150 grain Powerpoints. I prefer 170 grain bullets, myself, but in the interest of reducing recoil, 150's will do. With a classy old Winchester like that, keep the ammo all Winchester and don't defile it with a lesser brand. Try to find a few boxes of vintage Silvertips to go with it. I also have a WWII vintage Winchester 94 from about 1942. I shoot mostly reloads in it, but keep some correct Silvertips handy as well because it's the right stuff for the rifle. Unfortunately, the Silvertip has been discontinued and will be increasingly difficult to find. Now, if I can just find a serviceable 1940's Ford pickup truck to go with my Winchester, I will be all set.