invention_45
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Well, yes, but if Prohibition were gone, the drug dealers would be Walgreens and CVS. Drug users could pursue their happiness. Drugstores could pursue theirs, too. The seedy, violent drug dealers would be out of business.
Well, now.
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Keeping it real simple here.
Drug users use drugs because they want to feel good. Many of them can't feel good without them, which is why they don't "just say no". It's a form of mental illness.
Our solution, throw them in jail! Don't try hand help them to feel good without the drugs, just throw them in jail!
It's pretty amazing that so many of us support the right to use deadly force to defend our personal property, yet believe it's correct to put people to death for wanting to feel good.
The Russian mob seems to be making a decent living, both here and in Russia, through drug dealing. They don't seem to be deterrered.
I believe (in hushed tones) they may be making so much money that they can afford to pay corrupt officials to look the other way!
We waste so much on the completely ineffective war on drugs every year that could go towards both treating drug abusers and helping seniors get their needed prescriptions.
Ya think?
Drug users use drugs because they want to feel good. Many of them can't feel good without them, which is why they don't "just say no". It's a form of mental illness.
Our solution, throw them in jail! Don't try hand help them to feel good without the drugs, just throw them in jail!
It's pretty amazing that so many of us support the right to use deadly force to defend our personal property, yet believe it's correct to put people to death for wanting to feel good.
The Russian mob seems to be making a decent living, both here and in Russia, through drug dealing. They don't seem to be deterrered.
I believe (in hushed tones) they may be making so much money that they can afford to pay corrupt officials to look the other way!
We waste so much on the completely ineffective war on drugs every year that could go towards both treating drug abusers and helping seniors get their needed prescriptions.
Ya think?
I have seen it suggested that one way to fight the war on drugs is to intercept shipments of controlled substances, lace them with something nice and legal, and put them back on the streets. In 1950, something like 60% of
adults smoked, the figure I saw for 2000 was 28%. A big reason why spending on public education is such an obscene waste of money is becaus so
many students and teachers are dopeheads. I also note that the constant
misuse of the word "war" is that it cheapens and dilutes a word that should stand for something awful.
adults smoked, the figure I saw for 2000 was 28%. A big reason why spending on public education is such an obscene waste of money is becaus so
many students and teachers are dopeheads. I also note that the constant
misuse of the word "war" is that it cheapens and dilutes a word that should stand for something awful.
invention_45
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Time for a thought experiment.
Let's intercept, assuming we can for the sake of argument, 60% or so of all incoming illegal drugs. Lace them with, oh, ricin. Then send them on their merry way.
This is not rocket science. The possibility of doing this has been around for a long long time. So why hasn't it been done?
That's easy. Kill all the drug users and you kill the industry. That means all the drug dealers go out of business. But then so do all the drug testing labs, both forensic and employment. And so do all the drug raid swat teams. And so does DARE. And so do all the mandatory drug treatment programs. And so does the DEA and probably half the FBI and 1/3 of the CIA. All the technology companies that develop those neat portable nanogram drug-detecting sniffer machines that retail for $40,000 apiece. And all the home drug screening kits to check your kid's pee with. And all the doctors who live off writing pain killing prescriptions. And every single politician who campaigns against drugs.
So. This is never-ever going to ever ever happen.
The drug trade is the most profitable to the most people just the way it is.
Let's intercept, assuming we can for the sake of argument, 60% or so of all incoming illegal drugs. Lace them with, oh, ricin. Then send them on their merry way.
This is not rocket science. The possibility of doing this has been around for a long long time. So why hasn't it been done?
That's easy. Kill all the drug users and you kill the industry. That means all the drug dealers go out of business. But then so do all the drug testing labs, both forensic and employment. And so do all the drug raid swat teams. And so does DARE. And so do all the mandatory drug treatment programs. And so does the DEA and probably half the FBI and 1/3 of the CIA. All the technology companies that develop those neat portable nanogram drug-detecting sniffer machines that retail for $40,000 apiece. And all the home drug screening kits to check your kid's pee with. And all the doctors who live off writing pain killing prescriptions. And every single politician who campaigns against drugs.
So. This is never-ever going to ever ever happen.
The drug trade is the most profitable to the most people just the way it is.
O.F.Fascist
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Sir William,
Yes comrade, anti-capitalist socialism is obviously the answer to all of our nations problems.
It boggles my mind that in our supposidly free country we have people like you who think people should be put to death for practicing capitalism.
And nice socialism, we should give money to old people so they can buy drugs. I never read anything in the constitution about socialized medicine.
If you like Russia so much why dont you move there. :barf:
Yes comrade, anti-capitalist socialism is obviously the answer to all of our nations problems.
It boggles my mind that in our supposidly free country we have people like you who think people should be put to death for practicing capitalism.
And nice socialism, we should give money to old people so they can buy drugs. I never read anything in the constitution about socialized medicine.
If you like Russia so much why dont you move there. :barf:
Benonymous
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Good business
I agree with invention_45. The illegal drug industry is worth billions of dollars of commerce each year. Another area he didn't touch on are jails. We now have private enterprise jails, filled with drug offenders, making big bucks for investors and employing many people. If the "War on Drugs" costs billions each year, those billions have got to go somewhere and they go into the gaping maw of the enforcement and punishment industries. This is a bottomless pit.
Add to this figure the amount of money paid out by people to get the illicit drugs, more billions, the turnover would dwarf the auto industry! The drug barons have a vested interest in keeping prohibition in place. Seeing as they're very wealthy, they can "sponsor" politicians who can assist.
The final factor is the built-in voter perception based on fifty to sixty years worth of ant-drug promotion. Which candidate would run for election based on a "legalise crack" platform. Vote winner? Don't think so!
I agree with invention_45. The illegal drug industry is worth billions of dollars of commerce each year. Another area he didn't touch on are jails. We now have private enterprise jails, filled with drug offenders, making big bucks for investors and employing many people. If the "War on Drugs" costs billions each year, those billions have got to go somewhere and they go into the gaping maw of the enforcement and punishment industries. This is a bottomless pit.
Add to this figure the amount of money paid out by people to get the illicit drugs, more billions, the turnover would dwarf the auto industry! The drug barons have a vested interest in keeping prohibition in place. Seeing as they're very wealthy, they can "sponsor" politicians who can assist.
The final factor is the built-in voter perception based on fifty to sixty years worth of ant-drug promotion. Which candidate would run for election based on a "legalise crack" platform. Vote winner? Don't think so!
O.F. Facist,
Please read my entire post, and note that i was qouting someone else in regards to the Russians.
The fact that I went on to cite the Russian mob (classic capitalists!) as an example of the failure of the war on drugs. There's too much money to be made in illegal drugs to ever hold out any hope of winning this so called war.
I find the actions of the drug dealer to be no worse that the corporate executive who loots his employee's pension fund.
I live in Minnesota, which is like Russia without as much interesting architecture.
Please read my entire post, and note that i was qouting someone else in regards to the Russians.
The fact that I went on to cite the Russian mob (classic capitalists!) as an example of the failure of the war on drugs. There's too much money to be made in illegal drugs to ever hold out any hope of winning this so called war.
I find the actions of the drug dealer to be no worse that the corporate executive who loots his employee's pension fund.
I live in Minnesota, which is like Russia without as much interesting architecture.