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Kingair001
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Hopefully it will get better and try to punch only a 3 shot groups like you mentioned and not this shotgun thing
At least I hit the target !
Need to practice a lot and gonna fight the wind for sure but not that many 1000 yards ranges out here
And I think that I did pretty well for my first match - highest score was 183 with 3 X's with a stock gun (used) - factory ammo - budget scope
1000 yards for a rookie isn't the most easy way to get going . . .
But we all need to start somewhere . . . and I rather go to matches and learn each time some things
Finally there you find the people with the knowledge
But to be honest I wasn't well prepared at all to shoot the match
When shooting I found out that my cheek was way to low to have a nice clear view through my scope
So I used (don't laugh) cooling pads that I fold double on my stock to get the right hight . . . lol
I had to replace them after each shot into the good position
So I bought a cheek pad in the meantime
Also I noticed that my gun wasn't always horizontal aligned
Tried to tighten the screw on my Harris bipod but that didn't worked . . .
So I have a Pod-Lock kit installed now and I purchased a bubble level attached to my scope - 2 other problem solved.
But it was a really nice experience / nice folks and now I at least know what to expect in the next matches . . . until something else pops up . . . .
Guess I am gonna start a blog and throw in all my experiences (for what I have until now) so maybe we can attract some more folks into F-Class.
We always read how the top 10 Nationwide is doing but I hardly ever see something from or for starters
You can start easily on a 'small budget' like I did - and have F U N
That's the most important part
And YES I like my Savage 12 LRP Creedmoor 6.5 !
But I guess the RPR is just as good
First I was thinking to get a 6.5-284
Maybe if I do a barrel swap when the time is there
I am pretty sure that a custom build rifle with a Surgeon action - Bartlein barrel - Schmidt & Bender scope shoot way better than mine
And maybe one day I am ready for one of these custom rifles
But for now my Savage has to do the trick . . . no . . . it's the Indian in my case . . . .
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Kingair001
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The Savage 12 in 6.5 is a really nice performer out of the box !
But it was all new for me - quite an experience.
Installing the scope, lapping, torque wrench, etc . . .
Never shot a rifle before and than doing all these things
Actually my daughter and Mrs where joking about it
Daddy . . . you 1000 yards . . . ?
But I did it !
And the only thing I want to do is . . . getting better at it
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Kingair001, You shot very good, my 3 shot wasn't meant for you . some are happy when 2 shots are touching an the other 8 are 4" apart. Your doing good or I'd never call you hard core. You got that Savage LRP used, why would anyone sell that rifle. Keep it clean & what weight is the trigger set at? For target shooting its in ounces.
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Kingair001
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Thanks my friend but everyone can tell me I am a bad shooter
That motivates me even more to become a better one
The previous owner had a custom 338 Lapua build and was selling the Savage 12 to fund some money.
I was just emailing with him this morning and he is selling his 338 now.
The recoil is way to hard for him
The trigger on my Savage is set on the absolute minimum you can set on the Accu trigger
If you close the bolt really hard the trigger freezes but I like it that way
I didn't know what was happening during the match but after Googling that seems to be a common problem when set so low
Not for me anymore
That motivates me even more to become a better one
The previous owner had a custom 338 Lapua build and was selling the Savage 12 to fund some money.
I was just emailing with him this morning and he is selling his 338 now.
The recoil is way to hard for him
The trigger on my Savage is set on the absolute minimum you can set on the Accu trigger
If you close the bolt really hard the trigger freezes but I like it that way
I didn't know what was happening during the match but after Googling that seems to be a common problem when set so low
Not for me anymore
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Kingair001, same thing was going on with my friends trigger that's around 2 oz's you can increase to 3 it will go away. I have my trigger set at 10 oz's on my Remington 700 308, once you get get use to a light trigger it doesn't seem so light, let someone else try it that is not use to a light trigger, once they put their finger on the trigger it will go off. Then they give you that surprised look. The rifle your shooting now is the best out there for the price. Its going for around 1200 , I reload so ounce you add in the mounts , scope & dies its costly. I like the 308 but I like the 6.5 Creedmoor much better, I may after this barrel is shot out just rebarrel to a 6.5 creed better round with less recoil. If your a one rifle man you picked the right one. Keep it clean, don't let the barrel get to hot, get in a lot of trigger time. We are all trying for that one hole 5 shot group, 6 might be pushing it. At 200 yards I had a 1 hole 3 shot group, kept the target , if I shot the forth , well who knows.it does make me feel good when I look at it. Nice talking to you Hard Core, keep up the good work.
Kingair001
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cw308 I will be the one rifle guy
I bought the rifle with that light trigger.
So for me it's ok like that.
Can't change it since I need a new pin because the previous owner lost it
Guess they are 2 bucks at Savage
I was reading a lot before I made my final decision of what round and what rifle.
For me as a 'rookie' the Savage 12 LRP in Creedmoor 6.5 seemed to do the trick.
And it does.
First I was thinking to get a 6.5-284
Anyway if I ever want I can rebarrel it in that round.
Or even go for 6mm
Time will tell
I don't reload and only will buy factory match grade ammo
I really want to shoot the Berger 140 grain Hybrid VLD rounds but than I need to reload so that's not an option for me unless I find someone who will do the reloading for me
Guess I will be shooting about 1 match a month so that's slightly less than 1500 rounds a year.
I bought the A-Max 120 grain for 22.XX, the 140 grains for 24.XX and I noticed that the ELD-M 140 grain are going closer to 28.00 dollar.
I will just put up my brass for sale, make a reloader happy and recoup somewhat of the factory ammo price.
I bought the rifle with that light trigger.
So for me it's ok like that.
Can't change it since I need a new pin because the previous owner lost it
Guess they are 2 bucks at Savage
I was reading a lot before I made my final decision of what round and what rifle.
For me as a 'rookie' the Savage 12 LRP in Creedmoor 6.5 seemed to do the trick.
And it does.
First I was thinking to get a 6.5-284
Anyway if I ever want I can rebarrel it in that round.
Or even go for 6mm
Time will tell
I don't reload and only will buy factory match grade ammo
I really want to shoot the Berger 140 grain Hybrid VLD rounds but than I need to reload so that's not an option for me unless I find someone who will do the reloading for me
Guess I will be shooting about 1 match a month so that's slightly less than 1500 rounds a year.
I bought the A-Max 120 grain for 22.XX, the 140 grains for 24.XX and I noticed that the ELD-M 140 grain are going closer to 28.00 dollar.
I will just put up my brass for sale, make a reloader happy and recoup somewhat of the factory ammo price.
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Kingair001, the more matches you compete in , you will be talking to people that reload & most of them do. I don't compete only against myself. It's a nice group of people I shoot with every Sunday in the warm months, now that the weather is below 50 shooting is over, now I clean & prep my brass for the next season. One day you to will get into reloading, its a nice hobby, you get tight groups now, with different powders & bullets you will find the recipe that shoots better then any store bought rounds. Reloaders will have the edge over you. Also what is nice about your Savage a caliber change requires a barrel change & go & no go gages that's it. Without sending it to a gunsmith.
Kingair001
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cw308 - I know that almost all shooter reload but I am afraid it isn't of me
Don't have that much time left and this is gonna eat up hours of my free time
Last week I went to a store that sells loading equipment
Was thinking to get a Forster Co-ax - dies - RCBS 10-10 scale, etc . . . we'll all I would need
The bill would have been close to 1300 bucks without tax
Of course this is a one time investment and later you only need to change the dies
Other option is buy used equipment . . .
But with what I have left all will be pushed to last minute
Even going that far that I will be buying factory ammo although all the reloading equipment would be there . . . .
For me it would start out as a new hobby but pretty fast turning into 'slavery' to get them done
Actually I would like to reload with the Berger 140 grain Hybrid VLD
Or maybe better find someone who will reload them for me
Reloading would give me the optimum ammo and my groups will be better for sure . . . if I only had some more time
Maybe when I am retired
Don't have that much time left and this is gonna eat up hours of my free time
Last week I went to a store that sells loading equipment
Was thinking to get a Forster Co-ax - dies - RCBS 10-10 scale, etc . . . we'll all I would need
The bill would have been close to 1300 bucks without tax
Of course this is a one time investment and later you only need to change the dies
Other option is buy used equipment . . .
But with what I have left all will be pushed to last minute
Even going that far that I will be buying factory ammo although all the reloading equipment would be there . . . .
For me it would start out as a new hobby but pretty fast turning into 'slavery' to get them done
Actually I would like to reload with the Berger 140 grain Hybrid VLD
Or maybe better find someone who will reload them for me
Reloading would give me the optimum ammo and my groups will be better for sure . . . if I only had some more time
Maybe when I am retired
Kingair001, I use the single stage RCBS Rockchuck supreme press, RCBS F/L die, Redding Competition Seating die, RCBS Case trimmer, RCBS Chargemaster 1500 powder scale, RCBS Percision Mic. I waisted money buying different dies, scales & measuring tools after over 25+ years of reloading, what I have listed is what I settled on for me worked best after all my years of reloading, check them out add up the cost, hope I could save you money on trial & error. Almost for got a tumbled to clean your fired brass. For 25+ years I used dry tumblers with corn & walnut media. Changed cleaning fired brass to a wet tumbler with stainless steel pins, makes brass clean as new. Check it out & don't sell your brass .
Kingair001
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cw308 - I know that reloading would not make me a better shooter but my results would be better
It's not about the 'investment cost' but the time it will eat
Gonna shoot 2016 with factory ammo and see how far I can get with it.
Guess I am just going for the ELD Match in 140 grain and use this round for all matches - short, mid & long range
That will make it somewhat less complex for me and this way I will get to know this round pretty well.
But the Berger 140 grain in Hybrid VLD . . . . that's finally the round I would love to shoot.
It's not about the 'investment cost' but the time it will eat
Gonna shoot 2016 with factory ammo and see how far I can get with it.
Guess I am just going for the ELD Match in 140 grain and use this round for all matches - short, mid & long range
That will make it somewhat less complex for me and this way I will get to know this round pretty well.
But the Berger 140 grain in Hybrid VLD . . . . that's finally the round I would love to shoot.
Kingair001
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Update on the Hornady ammo:
Shot my last match at Camp Pendleton with the Hornady ELD Match 140 grain.
Didn't noticed any difference to be honest.
Next match is March 5 - 3 x 1000 yards
See how we perform than
Shot my last match at Camp Pendleton with the Hornady ELD Match 140 grain.
Didn't noticed any difference to be honest.
Next match is March 5 - 3 x 1000 yards
See how we perform than