Weird blue ball-tip self defense bullet?

If I could locate some for my odd calibers, the Glaser and Magsafe would be the only rounds I would leave handy inside my home, the key word here being "handy". Blowing through flesh completely without dumping energy is highly inefficient as a "one shot stopper", as the Strasburg tests clearly showed many years ago. Until I locate some more, a couple of my HD guns will carry Gold Dots and Hydra Shoks.


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How many people have you killed with these rounds? Do you really know what your really talking about?

Or, are you a bunch of Internet want to b's?

"I said it, because I read it, somewhere else":cool: Right?
 
Elvishead, if you are talking about me, I have only seen one kill. I have seen several times when the shooter missed their target and the round broke apart and did the trick anyway. When it broke up it usually hit 5-10 people with one round.

I have also seen what the .223 FMJ does as we switched from the 9mm glaser to that due to gun laws and parts availability for the H&K 94 we used.

If you were not talking about me, don't worry about it....

Mel
 
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Elvishead, if you are talking about me, I have only seen one kill. I have seen several times when the shooter missed their target and the round broke apart and did the trick anyway. When it broke up it usually hit 5-10 people with one round.

I have also seen what the .223 FMJ does as we switched from the 9mm glaser to that due to gun laws and parts availability for the H&K 94 we used.

If you were not talking about me, don't worry about it....

Mel
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guruatbol Glaser round. I saw a guy get shot through a denim jacket with a 9mm from an H&K 94 rifle. He was dead before he hit the floor. Made a big mess of the guy and the floor.

They are safe indoors and your likely range for a defensive shot is pretty short so they have loads of power. I have heard of them not penetrating and if there is body armor involved forget it. I have seen many shots with them and never seen a problem with them doing what they are designed for. I am a big fan of these rounds for HD/SD.

I also like the hydroshock. The nipple inside of the hollow point expands pretty darn good. Not sure how the penetration is. I'll have to try them on some scraps of drywall set up like a wall at HD/SD ranges and find out.

My .02

Mel
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I wasn't referring to you.

I just see so many people talking the round down, that have never had any experience except what they read on line.

I load my revolvers with them when I'm having house guest's because there room is in a bad spot by the front door in the middle of the house, and could be in the line of fire from a few different area's. If I was in the living room watching TV and some bad guys came in the front door, that room, is in direct line of fire, and the headboard of the bed is right behind there. So yes Glasers, and my snub's sometimes become frieads.

Other than that, in the house I use good old GDHP"s.
 
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I used to carry a 9mm with one Glaser in the chamber. Figured that would be the only shot I would get if somebody was right on top of me when I fired. But I kept the magazine full of then current JHP's. Seems like that was the Federal 9BP back then.

Anyway, times change and conventional bullets got a lot better. When I carry my P7, I load it top to bottom with the Winchester Ranger SXT +P+ 127 grain. I've killed a few goats with that load and I have total confidence it will do the job if I do my part.

Gregg
 
And made its film debut in the original Hannibal Lecter movie Manhunter, with William Petersen using them in a .44 Bulldog to take down Tom Noonan's serial killer. Great movie.
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Don't forget Sylvester Stallone used them in his 1911 in the movie Cobra. Same year; I don't know which came first.

You're a disease, I'm the cure..........Marion Cobretti
 
I have Glaser ""Safety Slugs" in my 357 mag in the bedroom. The choice was simple: I want a sure stopper and really have a problem with shooting my neighbor across the street through several walls. When a Glaser hits, that's it. Whatever gets hit with it is wrecked whether it's a wall or a bad guy but that's all there is. Just don't touch one off at anything you don't want wrecked. There is total energy transfer to the target.

The most enlightening things I ever did with a handgun happened when I went to school in Kansas. There were illegal dumps everywhere and I had the opportunity to shoot almost anything you could imagine from car doors, engine blocks, cans, dry wall, plywood, trees, toasters, dead animals and car tires. Guys, those lumps of lead don't stop when you want them to. They just keep on truckin'. I remember putting 230 grain 45's through 13 layers of plywood! Glaser slugs cure that problem but will wipe out anything you hit with them.

Flash
 
I've read many posts that condemed the GSS because of lack of penetration. The manufacturer claims 5-7" for the blue and 8-10" for the silver. In the "Box of Truth" test the blue penetrated 3 boards of sheetrock less than a 158 grain .357 JHP. I wonder what the silver would have done?

OK, more about penetration. I measured myself from front to back. ~12". My guess is that 6" would most likely penetrate my heart or lung. You could hit a bone but that is what double taps are for.

I don't have nor do I carry GSS in my guns (Golden Sabers are my favorite) but I would not feel at a disadvantage carrying them. (the silver would be my choice)

Dallas Jack
 
Dude you gotta get Extreme Shock ammo! seriously it is the best ammo on the planet!!! Literally causing any evil person it strikes to instantly explode in purple flames... on the other hand if it hits an innocent... it probably cures cancer or something... its on the site! :D That **** is the MOST gimmicky stuff out there:barf:
 
I have Glaser ""Safety Slugs" in my 357 mag in the bedroom. The choice was simple: I want a sure stopper and really have a problem with shooting my neighbor across the street through several walls. When a Glaser hits, that's it.
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Unfortunately, neither of the above statements is true. Glasers, MagSafes, and other frangible rounds have a very poor track record. You can do a search to validate this.

In a perfect world, with a perfect hit, they may perform well. Perfect worlds don't exist, and perfect hits are few and far between.

If these very specialized rounds were effective, more people would buy and use them. Back a number of years ago, I spent a lot of money on Glasers and MagSafes, convinced that they were the be-all and end-all. I did some testing, did a whole lot of reading...and arrived at one inescapable conclusion: these rounds are a compromise, and a poor one at that.

Your money; spend it as you will. But do some research first.
 
Sure, we can compare the Glaser and similar rounds to other ammo including 50 BMG and form all kinds of conclusions about effectiveness or ineffectiveness. It's like the guy who was standing with one foot in boiling water and the other foot in ice water. On the AVERAGE, he was comfortable!

In the end, the outcome for each shooting situation will depend on the size weight of the bad guy, angles, distances, what clothing he wore and a host of other variables. Was he taking drugs? Was he angry and motivated? Was he just plain nuts? Did you hit his cell phone, belt buckle or buttons? No one can predict the outcome of a real life shooting situation and it's the luck of the draw with Murphy working full time.

One fact remains uncontested: If you miss the bad guy or if the bullet goes THROUGH the target, the projectile can pass through several walls and kill your neighbor, his kid, wife or dog. You are responsible for damage caused by every round that you touch off whether you meant to cause the harm or not. At HOME, it's the Glasers or a 12 gauge shotgun for me. Period. On the street, I carry high performance nasty little pills and let the chips fall where they may.

Flash
 
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