Sigma 40 Blaster
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cold dead hands...
A few things, first is that I have no desire to become a LEO but sometimes do shiver when I come across an obvious CHL holder...wearing a windbreaker with a huge bulge on the right side with an IDPA T-Shirt and NRA hat on on a sunny 102 degree Texas Day.
I do have full confidence in myself in that I know when I will shoot, when I will not shoot, and that I am at peace with anything that happens as a result of my decisions. I am a good enough marksman under simulated pressure (competitions and a shooting buddy randomly shooting cap guns and fireworks) that I know my own limitations and adjust those limitations for real world conditions when I am truly scared out of my mind.
I did not make that policy...actually State policy says no guns except for LEO's period point blank. Any school that wants state funding pretty much has to accept those rules as far as I know, I actually wanted to bring more guns into the school by ensuring they were in competent hands.
Follow my line of thought here:
There's another post somewhere on here about 16 year olds being able to get a CCW. The response from being AGAINST CCW at that age were overwhelmingly high.
I cannot speak intelligently about all schools but a huge majority of our student body was fresh out of high school, most not even legal to drink (age 18 to 20). So that equals almost no legal gun carriers. Out of 3,000 students on campus at any given time (we had more enrolled but scheduled so we wouldn't have ALL our students there at the same day and time) we might have had 30 adult students on campus at any given time. While a lot of these were former military there were also a few "rehabilitated" criminals. Our age/race demographics were in line with most other Texas schools.
So out of those adults 30 there'd be 25 that could get a CCW and let's say 10 to 15 of them did. Out of those 15 maybe 5 or 10 carry on a regular basis and half of those train and take self defense as seriously as any participating member here does. So you might have 3-8 people on campus to help prevent a disaster in addition to whatever campus police you have (we had three at any given time, it was a small campus).
On the other hand you have roughly 70 instructors on campus plus another 30 or so for administration. That equals 100 people who's background was clean enough to pass a state background check AND most of them were military. Of those 100 let's say 45 of them have CHL's (maybe high for an average school but that's pretty accurate for where I was). State laws require all employees work 40 hours a week so the odds of all 45 of them being on campus together during the day is pretty good as most of us didn't like night classes. Out of those 45 a total of 20 want to become "deputized" (very low from my experience). That is 20 armed and trained individuals to act with campus and local police to eradicate any threat.
At the end of the day it's a numbers game, faculty/staff being armed and trained would be of more benefit than the handful of legal students CCW'ing. I was not trying to make policy for the state or country, just my school.
A few things, first is that I have no desire to become a LEO but sometimes do shiver when I come across an obvious CHL holder...wearing a windbreaker with a huge bulge on the right side with an IDPA T-Shirt and NRA hat on on a sunny 102 degree Texas Day.
I do have full confidence in myself in that I know when I will shoot, when I will not shoot, and that I am at peace with anything that happens as a result of my decisions. I am a good enough marksman under simulated pressure (competitions and a shooting buddy randomly shooting cap guns and fireworks) that I know my own limitations and adjust those limitations for real world conditions when I am truly scared out of my mind.
I did not make that policy...actually State policy says no guns except for LEO's period point blank. Any school that wants state funding pretty much has to accept those rules as far as I know, I actually wanted to bring more guns into the school by ensuring they were in competent hands.
Follow my line of thought here:
There's another post somewhere on here about 16 year olds being able to get a CCW. The response from being AGAINST CCW at that age were overwhelmingly high.
I cannot speak intelligently about all schools but a huge majority of our student body was fresh out of high school, most not even legal to drink (age 18 to 20). So that equals almost no legal gun carriers. Out of 3,000 students on campus at any given time (we had more enrolled but scheduled so we wouldn't have ALL our students there at the same day and time) we might have had 30 adult students on campus at any given time. While a lot of these were former military there were also a few "rehabilitated" criminals. Our age/race demographics were in line with most other Texas schools.
So out of those adults 30 there'd be 25 that could get a CCW and let's say 10 to 15 of them did. Out of those 15 maybe 5 or 10 carry on a regular basis and half of those train and take self defense as seriously as any participating member here does. So you might have 3-8 people on campus to help prevent a disaster in addition to whatever campus police you have (we had three at any given time, it was a small campus).
On the other hand you have roughly 70 instructors on campus plus another 30 or so for administration. That equals 100 people who's background was clean enough to pass a state background check AND most of them were military. Of those 100 let's say 45 of them have CHL's (maybe high for an average school but that's pretty accurate for where I was). State laws require all employees work 40 hours a week so the odds of all 45 of them being on campus together during the day is pretty good as most of us didn't like night classes. Out of those 45 a total of 20 want to become "deputized" (very low from my experience). That is 20 armed and trained individuals to act with campus and local police to eradicate any threat.
At the end of the day it's a numbers game, faculty/staff being armed and trained would be of more benefit than the handful of legal students CCW'ing. I was not trying to make policy for the state or country, just my school.