We Don`t Need The Second Amendment

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I'm glad the Texas State Constitution removes all doubt about the "militia" argument that the antis use as a crutch:

"Every citizen shall have the right to keep and bear arms in the lawful defense of himself or the State; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms, with a view to prevent crime."

How about any other state constitutions out there? I've never looked at any others.
 
Here's a random Sampling from http://packing.org


Wyoming:
The right of citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and of the state shall not be denied.
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Florida:
The right of the people to keep and bear arms in defense of themselves and of the lawful authority of the state shall not be infringed, except that the manner of bearing arms may be regulated by law.
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New York:
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms cannot be infringed.
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Massachussetts:
The people have a right to keep and bear arms for the common defense. And as, in the time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority, and be governed by it.
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California:
There are NO provisions related to the right to keep and bear arms in the California Constitution.
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New Jersey: (It Must Have Been In The Water, Even Back Then)
All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness.
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Wyoming, though....gotta love Wyoming, no?
Rich
 
azurefly says;
it may well come down, one day, to battle, where the time to try to pursuade and convince the other side is long past, and the time to do outright combat is at hand. Have you never heard of the notion of talks failing, of negotiations collapsing?
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You have to see that unless something monumental changes in this debate, it's going to come down, eventually, to a true fight.
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I have thoughts all the time that it will get so bad, that we would get someone like Hillary Clinton as President, and then the United Nations Rebecca Peters will have her way.
I sure do hope that if it does happen, all gun owners will rebel against the tyranny that could happen. And I mean with guns. As Charlton Heston says; "from my cold dead hands".
 
I'll bite. The day that we finally declare war on one country too many, when our evil imperialist ambitions are laid bare to the world, when the governors of our country are so openly corrupted that even the most simple men can see their words for lies and their deeds for poison.

I'm kidding, that'll never happen...:D

But I could see a new civil war when a woman president doesn't just prohibit the sales of semi automatic assault rifles, but actually sends people to get them. Then maybe a couple of states go to war (Cali Vs Texas), the gun owners get nuked by the anti-gun hippies who buddied up to Washington/UN who control the F-22s, and the rest of the country eventually slides into a noam chomsky/Farenheit451 nightmare.

I figure in the next 8 years, we're about 50/50 for anything...
 
I don't suspect, Rich, that it will be necessarily done with battle fronts and such like a Revolutionary War battle.

More like sniping and guerrilla tactics, probably.

And what is an example of what might make gun owners do this?
How about people being forced, by law, to turn in ALL FIREARMS? How about gun owners being forced into camps for owning or attempting to own guns? How about them being "re-educated" by the state, or forced to act as informants (under threat of prosecution, or possibly even persecution of their families) against other gun owners?

If you think you "win" in a discussion here because you successfully put a gun-owner on the spot with a question he can't adequately answer... :rolleyes:

These are NOT easy questions, Rich, so having put someone on a spot where he can't give a cut-and-dried answer is not a point for you.


-azurefly
 
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