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Redworm,
The problem isn't that he's leaving these decisions to his ground commanders, it's that he's only started doing so lately.
I happen to think this is a good plan. I'm glad they finally came up with a good strategy. I wish they hadn't taken 2 years to figure this out, but WTH...better late than never.
I am not gonna look this gift horse in the mouth.

Looking back at Murtha's proposal, which was to redeploy forces for interdiction rather than peacekeeping, this is the same plan.
Of course, they didn't let the Dems vote on Murtha's plan tho'. Instead they substituted a completely bogus "evacuate now!!" proposal and referred to it as Murtha's plan. Then they got to work poisoning the well.
Murtha was a traitor and/or a coward. Bush, OTOH just has a huge, clacking pair. Even though it's essentially the same plan. :rolleyes:
After enough of this behavior I get the sneaking suspicion that all of this has very little to do with winning the war and alot to do with politics.

My beef in this case is not Dubya himself, but his completely blind partisan supporters. I just want a little intellectual honesty.
 
"The problem isn't that he's leaving these decisions to his ground commanders, it's that he's only started doing so lately."

I'm curious, which branch of service are you in?
 
Of course, they didn't let the Dems vote on Murtha's plan tho'. Instead they substituted a completely bogus "evacuate now!!" proposal and referred to it as Murtha's plan.
Hardly. Murtha's own words: "Our military has done everything that has been asked of them, the U.S. can not accomplish anything further militarily. It is time to bring them home."

And Murtha's resolution:
Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of American in Congress assembled, That:

Section 1. The deployment of United States Forces in Iraq, by direction of Congress, is hereby terminated and forces involved are to be redeployed at the earliest practicable date.

Section 2. A quick-reaction U.S. force and an over-the-horizon presence of U.S. Marines shall be deployed in the region.

Section 3. The United States of America shall pursue security and stability in Iraq through diplomacy.

"Deployment ... is hereby terminated". Sounds pretty straightforward to me.

In any event, it was a non-binding resolution however it was worded and was intended only, by either side, to make some sort of alleged "point".
 
Um, seems to me that Bush was basically saying the same thing in 2003 that he is saying now. Go figure...but then in the last election the left was saying it was no fair that Bush said what he meant and did what he said. That doing so was a political "trick". "No fair!!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" :eek:
 
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