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GoSlash27

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Today Dubya is going to announce his plan to cut and run from Iraq on the grounds that Iraq has somehow miraculously developed self-sufficiency over the weekend. Coincidentally (haha) timed just perfectly for the midterm elections.
Note the curious absence of charges of cowardice and abetting the enemy. :rolleyes:
 
How much are you willing to bet this cut and run announcement happens today before 5 p.m. EST? $100? $1000?

John
 
Am I the only one wondering when troops will be sent back to Afghanistan? I had this weird dream that that's what started this whole mess in the first place...:confused:
 
You may be the only one given that we didn't pull them all out of Afghanistan. In fact, the most recently American soldier death in Afghanistan was on 22 Nov 2005, Spc. Matthew P. Steyart.
 
Not entirely but unless I'm mistaken there were many troops reassigned to Iraq from Afghanistan. Not saying the country is devoid of US presence but I figured that catching the "evil-doers" would've been our first priority.
 
Say for instance, "Dubya" ISN'T the under-handed snake-in-the-grass you seem to think he is...

In the politico-liberal climate and mind-set of the day... it would still be prudent to "time" his announcements in an advantageous manner... as in "just prior" to elections, etc. :rolleyes:

Even you, who are no doubt honorable and spotless... would do exactly the same if you were in his office and trying to dance the highwire AND STILL GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED and all the while dodging the liberals trying to make you fall... :mad:
 
Interesting how the Iraqi president, back in February, was talking about beginning a handover of responsibility for internal security and a drawdown of allied troops at about this time of year, and yet undoubtedly the Democrats and anti-Iraq activists will take credit for pressuring the administration into it, as well as ascribing base political motives as was done here.
 
Redworm & Double Naught - this one's for you:

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She's not bad lookin' (though could stand to eat a cheesburger or two :p) but I don't see how that relates to what I said.

edit: oops just noticed the sash
 
In other words, "we're not in Afghanistan for no reason, and our soldiers are not dying for nothing."

Just a short time ago, this was the scene in Afghanistan:

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I agree, I never said troops are over there for nothing. My point was that Afghanistan seems forgotten since Iraq became the big issue.
 
Little known is the drawdown has been going on since about March. Base closers in Kuwait was the start of it. Funny how the democrats knowing this start yelling to pull out as it is allready being done.

Got any guesses as to what will happen next? Watch the KURDS.:D

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Say for instance, "Dubya" ISN'T the under-handed snake-in-the-grass you seem to think he is...

In the politico-liberal climate and mind-set of the day... it would still be prudent to "time" his announcements in an advantageous manner... as in "just prior" to elections, etc.

Even you, who are no doubt honorable and spotless... would do exactly the same if you were in his office and trying to dance the highwire AND STILL GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED and all the while dodging the liberals trying to make you fall...
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As a matter of fact I would not. If Iraq is indeed ready to take over, then playing with the timing to coincide with any political event is either a) Sacraficing American lives on the altar of politics or b) Sacraficing the mission on the altar of politics.
See, if it was me in charge we wouldn't be in Iraq at all right now. But pretending that I was just for the sake of argument I would have handled it alot differently, going in with at least 3 times the troops in order to facilitate a more peaceful transition. But pretending that I did just for the sake of argument, I would be handling the entire war effort in such a way as to actually win.

My point is not that Bush is a worm. My point is that anybody that calls the lefties traitors or 'against our troops' because they advocate bringing them home before the job is done are now faced with a dilemma: Is Bush a traitor as well, or are they?

Good luck with that ;)
 
gs27,

As a matter of fact I would not. If Iraq is indeed ready to take over, then playing with the timing to coincide with any political event is either a) Sacraficing American lives on the altar of politics or b) Sacraficing the mission on the altar of politics.
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As well as anyone else, you should realize that an announcement is just that. So what if he announces that we'll be pulling out today, turning it into a political football. The real truth is when it actually happens. Perhaps he's had this ball rolling in the political machine w/ the iraq leadership, but convinced them that it was in everybodies interest to wait to announce it. And as mentioned earlier, the iraq leadership DID announce it. So, all this talk about sacrificing on the altar (little over dramatic, huh?) could be a moot point!! If a long time ago the iraq leadership talked about it, don't you think that the bottom line was already planned out a long time ago? So, who cares what political football is created, when the bottom line isn't affected... that bottom line is the handover and pull out of our troops.

Pretty much we can all assume that we don't have all the information needed. And in that vane, I'll conceede that maybe Bush is timing this for political benefit. But, good luck proving it.
 
GoSlash27 Wrote:

See, if it was me in charge we wouldn't be in Iraq at all right now.
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then wrote:

But pretending that I was just for the sake of argument I would have handled it alot differently, going in with at least 3 times the troops in order to facilitate a more peaceful transition. But pretending that I did just for the sake of argument, I would be handling the entire war effort in such a way as to actually win.
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First you state that if you were in charge you wouldn't be in Iraq at all, then you state if you were in charge, you would have went in with 3 x the troops to WIN.

Which is it? Having some Kerryitis? Problems making up your mind? Or just changing it to follow popular views at the time?

Hang it up man. "Dubya" haters are all the same......:barf:
 
I repeat:
But pretending that I was just for the sake of argument I would have handled it alot differently, going in with at least 3 times the troops in order to facilitate a more peaceful transition. But pretending that I did just for the sake of argument, I would be handling the entire war effort in such a way as to actually win.
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Pitiful. :rolleyes:
 
How much are you willing to bet this cut and run announcement happens today before 5

I noticed you didn't get an answer on the bet.
 
Goslash27, obviously the english language escapes you. You state that if you were in charge we wouldn't be in iraq. Well, since you are not in charge thats all pretend too right?

But pretending that you were just for the sake of the arguement.....you'd yada, yada, yada....

So first, in your PRETEND world, we wouldn't even be there, but then in your PRETEND world we'd be there with 3x more men.....

Your right....I'm sure glad this is PRETEND. Your reasoning IS pitiful....
 
"I noticed you didn't get an answer on the bet."

1:35 p.m. Eastern and counting. Still no response. Tick-tock-tick-tock...

I could have used some easy money, I've purchased two shotguns this month and there's still a day to go.

John
 
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