Was I wrong?

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One aspect of the morality of this "deal" is the competency of the seller.

Most of the above replies have assumed that the seller was just uninformed.

The OP implied that he might have had diminished mental capacity, perhaps due to old age.

If that was the case all of the arguments for fairness and the whining about the dealer's cost of doing business go out the window.

Attempting to take advantage of an elderly person who may not have a firm grasp of the situation is dastardly, and actually illegal in some areas (FL, I think).

Bob
 
Ozzie, How is it right to steal business from a business while on their premises?

Because if a business tries to cheat a person out of that much money (I know buyer beware) I would consider that a swindler instead of business man. Also the man did not take the deal the store offered so you don’t know if the sale would have gone through.
All we know is that the person that started this thread walked up and offered the seller more money for a gun that was still for sale, but suggested that they talk outside the store.
I still feel he did nothing wrong.
Had he walked up and interpreted the conversation and said “Wow man, you’re stupid to take that deal, I’ll give you $$$$$.” That is another story but not what happened.
Lets fact it the only thing worse than a used car lot (not all lots) is a gun store (some gun stores). I know, I worked for a man for over 20 years that would have cheated his mother out of her grave if he had the chance.
Had I owned the store and seen what he did I would have asked him to leave but at the same time I would not have tried to (Can’t use that word here) the man.
 
business is business on both their part and yours.. that customer should know the value of his items before he goes to do business so if they get him it's his fault.. For you, thats what competitive business is except I would have only offered him something middle of the road between what you thought it was worth and what he was going to give it up for. I wouldnt feel bad at all for making a competitive offer.
 
That happened once in Miami with an H&K chambered in .40 I was listening to the H&K guy let it go for $400 and I asked the obvious just to but in. "you selling that? How much? Let me take a look?!" and the store owner yelled "get the **** out of my store if you guys want to sell and buy guns between each other! That doesn't go on in here papo, eso no es justo!"

-___- nice store owner you had lol




Edit : oh and I was offered $300 for my all Belgium hi-power. I LAUGHED SO HARD!!!!!
 
So he should pay the gas bill for two months with one customer? An elderly customer that has no idea what a gun is worth? They were clearly trying to take advantage. This place moves hundreds if not thousands of guns a day. There is no need to try and make this much on a used buy. They knew better.
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As someone else pointed out you don't have a clue as to the costs of running a gun shop. Even if was relevant to you stealing business with unfair practices.

For a quick lesson in business. I try to make as much money on every transaction as possible. You as the customer should try to save or in this case negotiate the best deal for yourself as possible. My sales volume is irrelevant. My profit margin is irrelevant. If both parties are willing to deal it is not your business (literally)

If you felt my offer was too low and unfair then simply open yourself a darn gun shop and offer what you feel to be the appropriate amount for things that folks bring you.

Bottom line no matter how you try to spin it...............you were wrong. What you did was the only dishonest thing done that day. The fact that you cannot come to grips with it is very sad.
 
When he was looking at other merchandise I gave him one of my business cards and
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This is possibly why you are questioning your actions.

I am assuming that you were still inside the gun shop.

You made out well, getting the Colt for still a "deal"; however, you don't know whether or not he would have sold it to the gun shop for the original dollar amount, he had not left when you approached him.

Kind of an insider trading ethics dilemma. Had you not been in the gun store, more than likely you would have never known about the possibility of this particular gun.

Myself, I have never attempted to "do this type of business" inside another's place of business; being a competitor inside their store. I am a guest in their place of business, one that can choose to walk out the door and do business elsewhere if I don't like their practices, but it is their business.

You will have to draw your own "ethical line" on this one.
 
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"My point is the mentality of the folks who expect the most for the least, and badmouth the shop when they don't get what they want and have zero clue what it takes to stay legit."

Seems that the same can be said for Shop owners trying to get the 'most for the least' and then badmouth others that are willing to be more equitable. Just curious... does 'legit' mean, "license to steal"?

I've read a lot of quips on this post... for me, the bottom line is, if you are simply out for yourself (whether in business or as an individual) without thought to dealing equitably with those you do business with, if you have no regard for the circumstances that other find themselves in (some might call this compassion) but simply want all that you can get and you don't give a damn how it affects others then put that information on your business card and/or be up front with each person that you deal with and see what the results are. I'm sure your reputation as well as your net profits will give you a clue as to what your customers think of your business plan. Oh, but I forget... you're out for yourself and, after all, there is a sucker born every minute!

Good for you Beentown71
 
Sorry folks, this really isn't a gun topic, it's an ethics and morality topic, it just happens that a gun was the merchandise involved.
 
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