Warped,liberal,freedom hating anti-quotes

Conservatives use that phrase more than liberals do. What is your point, exactly? That could be a perfectly legitimate statement or an absurd overrespect of the government depending on what The Law is.
 
USP45usp
You are exacty right and the background check falls into the same pile.
But i dread this gov. issued card even more because i believe once in effect it will be used very quickly to severely restrict gun purchases.

I guess i see this one as the last straw.
 
tyme

Conservative liberals maybe (AKA closet libs). :D

Yes it could be a perfectly legitimate statement, but most times its not, its used by LEO's as justification to dodge valid points about societal mores of citizens who recognize the unjustness in formal legal statutes and they way they're sometimes applied. Usually associated with a thread concerning freedom and gun laws of course.

So I lump that statement in with the liberal types. There's the law and then there's whats right. OK?
 
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"I'd run right out and get my ccw TODAY if I thought there was a snowballs chance that they'd respect it and leave me alone. The way it is though, its just something else for them to use against you. Subsection this, subsection that, sorry citizen you lose again."

When I was working on the Navajo Indian reservation a few years back, there was a neighbor/co-worker who had this exact same personal philosophy. He bought all of his firearms through private party transfer, and he talked me out of a CCW. He looked very innocent (which he was), and carried a firearm with him in his car at all times. He said that getting a CCW is not the answer, and felt that one should never tell the government more than they should know. He cracked me up when he went on a car tour for a few weeks of the US and told me how he drove through Washington DC with a loaded .357 in his personal defiance of firearms' laws. (He actually carried/carries strictly for self-defense) He is not a fanatic of any kind, by the way. I guess, the "innocent" look helped him, and he never had, and from the last time I spoke with him a couple weeks ago, still hasn't had a problem with firearms.
 
It's the law

A phrase that sometimes bothers me. I mean, if one thinks about it, it used to be the law that it was legal to enslave men/women and children to do labor. It used to be the law to lock up people that hit hard times and couldn't pay their bills. It used to be the law that people could own machine guns without permission or a tax stamp (oh, that was a good one :D ).

But you see where I'm going.

I know that we have some really hard core "it's the law" types on the board but I can't seem to think of our ForeFathers and them breaking the law as it was at the time. We wouldn't be the US right now if the law had been followed and everyone just decided that "it's the law" and did nothing.

Just to put this into perspective: If we just do what we're told because "it's the law":

-We'd be speaking with a funny ascent.

-We'd have people of color outside mowing our lawns and whipping them when they didn't weedeat the sides of the fence.

-People of color would still be in the back of the bus, different water fountains, bathrooms, restaurants, etc..

I'm sorry that all I can think about right now, the American founding and the Civil Rights movement are the two biggest examples that I really enjoy reading about and learning about so there may be a lot more examples of breaking the law for good things to come about.

And yes, I firmly believe that owning any type of small arm is for the common good. (lets not get into suitcase nukes, F-16's fully loaded (which I would LOVE to own), and larger arms that are mostly used for offense, not defense).

Wayne
 
"It's the Law"

Wayne gets it. The absurdity of the "It's the Law" statement goes much deeper than just arms issues.

It's not about LEO bashing either, lest anyone should imply. It's about warped & absurd statements detremental to the well being of America.
 
It's the law

Comeback: Well, at one point in time it was legal to deny black people the right to vote, what's you're point. :rolleyes:
 
That its absurd.

Sigh. Some folks just don't get it. :rolleyes:

Maybe one day when you get it said to you then you'll get it. Maybe it'll be right after you draw down on a punk for trying to rob you and you save your families money only to be told that you're being charged with terrorism.

How in the heck can you charge me with terrorism, That was self defense, you'll say...

It's the law they'll say. ;)

Which brings us back on topic and to our next absurd statement...

It'll never happen here.
 
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