Warped,liberal,freedom hating anti-quotes

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Te Anau

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It's a shame that good,decent,honest Americans have to co-exist with these losers. :mad:

Political Leaders:

"[P]eople who like assault weapons they should join the United States Army, we have them." - Gen. Wesley Clark, CNN Crossfire, 6/25/03

"I believe all handguns should be abolished." - Sen. John Chafee, 1/9/97.

"If it were up to me, We'd ban them all." - Rep. Mel Reynolds, CNN Crossfire, 12/9/93.

"Ultimately, I would like to see the manufacture and possession of handguns banned except for military and police use." - Rep. Bobby Rush, Chicago Tribune, 12/5/99.

"We need much stricter gun control, and eventually we should bar the ownership of handguns except in a few cases." - Rep. William Clay (D-MO), St. Louis Dispatch, 5/8/93.

"If it was up to me, no one but law enforcement officers would own hand guns." - Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, 11/13/98.

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights or ordinary Americans to own firearms ... that we are unable to think about reality." - President Bill Clinton, March 1, 1993.

"We are going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy! We're going to beat guns into submission!" - Representative Chuck Shumer, 12/8/93.

"I don't know why people carry guns. Guns kill people." - NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg, July 2003.

"Mr. President, what is going on in this country? Does going to school mean exposure to handguns and to death? As you know, my position is we should ban all handguns, get rid of them, no manufacture, no sale, no importation, no transportation, no possession of a handgun. There are 66 million handguns in the United States of America today, with 2 million being added every year." - Senator John H. Chafee, (R-RI), 6/11/92.

"When anyone uses a firearm, whether it's the kind of terrorism that we are trying to combat with al Qaeda and these non-state terrorists, or as a former district attorney involved in the conviction of an individual who used firearms against innocent citizens - regardless of how we define terrorism, that individual and that family felt that they were victims of a terrorist act. Brandishing a firearm in front of anybody under any set of circumstances is a terrorist act and needs to be dealt with." - Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, 1/17/03 (Senate Government Affairs Committee Testimony)

"Mr. speaker, we must take swift and strong action if we are to rescue the next generation from the rising of tide armed violence. That is why today I am introducing the Handgun Control Act of 1992. This legislation would outlaw the possession, importation, transfer or manufacture of a handgun except for use by public agencies, individuals who can demonstrate to their local police chief that they need a gun because of threat to their life or the life of a family member, licensed guard services, licensed pistol clubs which keep the weapons securely on premises, licensed manufacturers and licensed gun dealers." - Rep. Stephen J. Solarz, 8/12/92.

"Indeed, that the Second Amendment poses no barrier to strong gun laws is perhaps the most well-settled proposition in American constitutional law. Yet the incantation of this phantom right continues to pervade Congressional debate." - Erwin N. Griswold, Solicitor General, Nixon Administration (Washington Post, 11/4/90)

"I think you have to do it a step at a time and I think that is what the NRA is most concerned about. Is that it will happen one very small step at a time so that by the time, um, people have woken up, quote, to what's happened, it's gone farther than what they feel the consensus of American citizens would be. But it does have to go one step at a time and the banning of semi-assault military weapons that are military weapons, not household weapons, is the first step." - Mayor Barbara Fass, Stockton California

"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe."
-U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein Associated Press 11/18/93
 
"Banning guns addresses a fundamental right of all Americans to feel safe."
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1) I don't see anything in the Bill of Rights about "feeling safe"
2) I would not feel safe if you took away my gun, thus you would violate my "right" to feel safe. But I guess the "right to feel safe" doesn't apply to gun owners.
3) What about the right to BE safe?
 
Here's another

"If you don't like it then get out of my country"

(LEO to me on THR whle discussing CCW laws iirc.) (Poster name withheld b/c he frequents here and I'm not trying to stir anything up. Thought its appropriate to lump in with all your politicians quotes though.)

My response to him about his statement was pretty much what got me banned from THR. I think people should take offense at these type of statements.
 
The quote that puts it all together for me-- Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), on CBS' 60 Minutes:

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it."

Yes, that's one of *my* Senators, thank you very much, and the other one is no better.

Tim
 
http://www.thefiringline.com/library/quotes/antifreedom.xml

Added quotes by Clark, Chafee, Bloomberg, Ridge, and Griswold. Thanks.

Just a minor gripe -- the format MM/DD/YY is great for confusing people. When the day-of-month is less than 13, the format is indistinguishable from DD/MM/YY, which is also in fairly wide use... mostly in europe. OTOH, the standard YYYY-MM-DD is difficult to misinterpret.
 
‘‘Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA - ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State.’’
— Heinrich Himmler




"[P]eople who like assault weapons they should join the United States Army, we have them." - Gen. Wesley Clark, CNN Crossfire, 6/25/03



hmm, wonder if Clark considered Himmler a Hero.
 
Another one is "it's for the children". that has to be one of the most underhanded hitting below the belt excuse there is.
hell i need my guns so i can protect! my family.
 
It always seems alittle strange to me that all these anti's seem to have an almost religious faith in the fact that If they pass a law like they want we would just put our heads in a noose and jump off the stool. It might surprise them how fast the war would start.
 
"Mr. President, what is going on in this country? Does going to school mean exposure to handguns and to death? As you know, my position is we should ban all handguns, get rid of them, no manufacture, no sale, no importation, no transportation, no possession of a handgun. There are 66 million handguns in the United States of America today, with 2 million being added every year." - Senator John H. Chafee, (R-RI), 6/11/92.
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Yes, and amazingly, the total deaths by ALL firearms is still only around 30,000 annually. A lot of people, yes, but when you're talking about so many MILLIONS of guns, negligible!

So I wonder if Mr. Chafee believes that once there was a ban on manufacture, sale, importation, transportation, ownership and possession of all handguns, it would be safe to say that no one would have them.

Would Mr. Chafee be willing to understand and accept the fact that if there were no handguns permitted to the citizens, there would be not nearly enough support from the law-enforcement and military communities to keep many firearms companies and many thousands of workers employed? So when all the gun companies dried up and ceased to exist, who would make guns for the police?! Or would the police simply no longer need handguns either, because the ban would be so magically effective that not even one single criminal could have access to a handgun?

That guy is an utter moron. He's so fixated on his pathological hatred of guns that he literally can't think reasonably.

-blackmind
 
Blackmind,

Mr. Chafee as well as Feinstein, et al, don't care. They have theirs with either body guards for life or like ol' Feinstein, their own permit.

Like in the other thread that we're on, we are expendable to them.

Wayne
 
Yes, and amazingly, the total deaths by ALL firearms is still only around 30,000 annually.
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Of this number half are suicides. One might point out that these are suicides which would otherwise be completed in other ways, such as jumping from buildings as in the Toronto suicide study.

I also find it interesting that many of the same politicos who are against gun ownership are proponents assisted suicide. I suppose that would mean a drift toward government control of assisted suicide?

Of this number how many are justifiable homicide, i.e. self defence homicide and police on criminal homicide? Anybody have the numbers?
 
"Yes, and amazingly, the total deaths by ALL firearms is still only around 30,000 annually. A lot of people, yes, but when you're talking about so many MILLIONS of guns, negligible!"

What I find amazing is the amount of auto deaths and injuries, and vehicles aren't made as weapons. "Ban all of them, have people turn them in, I find no reason for anyone to own a vehicle, except in certain cases." (I made up that quote to show how ignorant statements can be)
 
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M&M (hope you don't mind me referring to you as such)

In Oregon, we have assisted suicide. Go to the doc, get the pills, blamo, you're dead.

Yet, when someone doesn't use a "PC" method like an overdose of drugs, it's put into their little computer system as "suicide by gun".

It's just the control issue, always has been, always will. If WE decide and vote on how you can kill yourself, then that's fine. If you choose the way you wish to kill yourself, then that is wrong.

Wayne
 
Yes, I think it is always the control issue, plus the fear by the obsessive-compulsive antis that gun owners might be like themselves. There is a lot of evidence for including hoplophobia among the simple phobias, even if it never gets in the DSM.

I'd estimate about half the gun suicides I've seen were people with terminal cancer or other slowly lethal illness. I'm not an advocate of assisted suicide in large part because it puts the State in control of what should be a private matter, but on the other hand I'm against the hundred year trend of abolishing the ability of citizens to buy lethal substances at the drugstore and hardware store. Interesting historical question is to wonder how many suicides in the late 1800s were done using the old 'rat poisons' from the hardware store or opiate sedatives from the drugstore?
 
Well as for myself i've lost all trust in the anti gun crowd. After listening to them describe how piles of assualt weapons could be had dirt cheap at the gunshows with no paperwork.
Been to several shows since and cant find the cheap ones or without a background check.
You fellers must be buy'en them all before i get there.
Seriously i believe just one more election could mean the most restrictive gun laws this country has ever seen.
Al Gore mentioned the need for a purchase card whitch a citizen would acquire from state or fed government before he could purchase a handgun.
If we allow this we have agreed that we must have the permission of some government agency to exercize a right we already posess.
 
Mtn. Man,

Al Gore mentioned the need for a purchase card whitch a citizen would acquire from state or fed government before he could purchase a handgun.
If we allow this we have agreed that we must have the permission of some government agency to exercize a right we already posess.
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In a way (or directly) we have already allowed this to happen, by getting a "permit" to have and carry guns outside of our domain (house/yard). In some states the permit or lisense can be used in the place of the NICS check, so therefore you already have the purchase card as set forth by Gore.

Only two States, Vermont and Alaska have decided to just take the 2nd as written and leave the People alone.

Wayne
 
Wayne hit the nail on the head on that issue.

It never ceases to amaze me on these gun boards how there's clearly no confusion about the 2nd amendment, yet almost all have their CCW permit and espouse getting them to be legal...

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

Everyone wants to do the right thing and be law abiding, myself included, but getting a CCW is a compromise born of fear of the government. When you have fear of the government, you have tyranny and abuse.

I'd run right out and get my ccw TODAY if I thought there was a snowballs chance that they'd respect it and leave me alone. The way it is though, its just something else for them to use against you. Subsection this, subsection that, sorry citizen you lose again.
 
Exactly who is the terrorist here???

Brandishing a firearm in front of anybody under any set of circumstances is a terrorist act and needs to be dealt with." - Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge, 1/17/03 (Senate Government Affairs Committee Testimony)
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So, you come home at night, a pair of thugs jump out of the bushes with tire irons and rush you. You draw your gun and hold them at gunpoint till the Police arrive.
You have comitted a terrorist act, not them??

A woman is going to her car late at night in a parking garage and a serial rapist pops up from behind another car with a knife in his hand. The woman draws her gun, and her attacker runs.
She has comitted a terorist act, not the rapist???

A senior citizen is sitting at home, watching TV, minding his own business. A meth junkie kicks in his door, intent on robbery, and if need be, murder. The man runs to his bathroom, where he leaves his .357 magnum revolver. The meth junkie follows him, trench knife in hand, and is shot dead at the bathroom door.
The senior citizen is the terrorist, not the meth junkie???

This is a very revealing look at the workings of a professional federal bureaucrat's mind. It reveals their ture colors and their worldview that We The People are expendable, plain and simple.
(If the bold font and red color hurts your eyes... Sorry.)

Ask yourself - exactly who is the terrorist?

Here's one of mine: Any beuraucrat that thinks like this is a terrorist and needs to be dealt with as such and should not under any set of circumstances be allowed access to public office or political power. :D :D
 
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