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Want to buy 22lr rifle for son.
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The trouble with the 10/22 for a real beginner is that it is semi-auto and not easily single loaded. Unless you want to start the beginner with a 10 round magazine (not a good idea), you would have to load one in the magazine, load and fire, remove the magazine, etc.
A decent bolt action repeater would make more sense. You can keep it single shot by just removing the magazine.
(I know I will hear from the guy who started shooting at the age of 3 with Ma Deuce in each hand, but I am thinking of ordinary kids!)
Jim
A decent bolt action repeater would make more sense. You can keep it single shot by just removing the magazine.
(I know I will hear from the guy who started shooting at the age of 3 with Ma Deuce in each hand, but I am thinking of ordinary kids!)
Jim
I learned on a Remington 77. Just need to teach the pupil to respect the gun.The trouble with the 10/22 for a real beginner is that it is semi-auto and not easily single loaded. Unless you want to start the beginner with a 10 round magazine (not a good idea), you would have to load one in the magazine, load and fire, remove the magazine, etc.
All the guns mentioned are good. He'd love any of them.
IMO hard to beat the Ruger 10/22. I think it's the quintessential 22 rifle. An 8 year old or a granddad can use it with equal comfort. Mine is a blued standard model I got 30 years ago. Also made in stainless if you prefer. I like the looks of the Mannlicher stocked version a lot.
IMO hard to beat the Ruger 10/22. I think it's the quintessential 22 rifle. An 8 year old or a granddad can use it with equal comfort. Mine is a blued standard model I got 30 years ago. Also made in stainless if you prefer. I like the looks of the Mannlicher stocked version a lot.
I hear that a lot, but I think any child old enough to learn to shoot is old enough to learn to NOT pull the trigger just because there are rounds left in the magazine.Quote:
The trouble with the 10/22 for a real beginner is that it is semi-auto and not easily single loaded. Unless you want to start the beginner with a 10 round magazine (not a good idea), you would have to load one in the magazine, load and fire, remove the magazine, etc.
If they can't understand the concept of "only fire once", they are too young to be handling a firearm
Blindstitch
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Do any of you find it funny that he posted this in the bolt, lever, pump section and not semi?
I don't doubt that the ruger 10/22 is a great gun but maybe he really wants a bolt/lever/pump gun.
Sure if this was in the semi section ruger 10/22 and marlin 60 would be king.
I don't doubt that the ruger 10/22 is a great gun but maybe he really wants a bolt/lever/pump gun.
Sure if this was in the semi section ruger 10/22 and marlin 60 would be king.
I hear that a lot, but I think any child old enough to learn to shoot is old enough to learn to NOT pull the trigger just because there are rounds left in the magazine.
A single shot is a better choice for the first time user because they are much more careful because it is a lot more trouble to reload after every shot and they want to make every shot count.
Snyper should know better then to say a child that cannot operate a rifle doesnt need to be taught. Thats the wrong way to think. I say if they can comprehend what's actually happening then age dont matter.
My grandson is 3, and he's heading down the path I chose, and his father chose , fishin hunting and guns and rod an reels and cars....
When I find one, he'll be gettin an ol winchester model 67, not because it's a badass ole rifle but because its easier to concentrate on one action at a time for young people. Repetitive shooting fundamentals are gonna be taught, and goals will be set , some kids dont care if they can shoot accurately, some dont even care to shoot, but if you make it interesting, you might get them hooked on it and that's not a bad thing.
My grandson is 3, and he's heading down the path I chose, and his father chose , fishin hunting and guns and rod an reels and cars....
When I find one, he'll be gettin an ol winchester model 67, not because it's a badass ole rifle but because its easier to concentrate on one action at a time for young people. Repetitive shooting fundamentals are gonna be taught, and goals will be set , some kids dont care if they can shoot accurately, some dont even care to shoot, but if you make it interesting, you might get them hooked on it and that's not a bad thing.
That's not even close to what I saidSnyper should know better then to say a child that cannot operate a rifle doesnt need to be taught.
And if they can't comprehend "one shot at a time" age doesn't matterI say if they can comprehend what's actually happening then age dont matter.
A single shot is a better choice for the first time user because they are much more careful because it is a lot more trouble to reload after every shot and they want to make every shot count.
They will be as "careful" as you teach them to be
Just because the gun can fire more than once before reloading doesn't mean they have to shoot rapidly until it's empty, and to suggest they would insinuates you would have no control of them at all
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I have an older 900 series Marlin 981T with a tube mag and it is my kids favorite gun. More than the semi 795 for sure. Accurate and cheap. Shoots anything. S, L, LR whatever. I also learned on an old Sears Mod 5 lever action so maybe I am biased toward the tube!
A rifle with a good tubular magazine feed is easier for kids to load and they hold more ammo. Some box magazines have very stiff springs and lower capacity. It's also harder to lose the tube than a box magazine.
I have an older 900 series Marlin 981T with a tube mag and it is my kids favorite gun. More than the semi 795 for sure. Accurate and cheap. Shoots anything. S, L, LR whatever. I also learned on an old Sears Mod 5 lever action so maybe I am biased toward the tube!
Oh heck buy him just about any decent bolt action .22 Rifle of appropriate size. He is not competing in the olympics he is learning to shoot and having fun. How many of us learned on the "best" choice. We learned on what was presented to us. Heck mine was an Ithaca M49 single shot lever action. Still have it, greatest rifle ever, nope but it was just fine.
Master Blaster
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CZ 455 either the american as pictured with no sights of a model with iron sights. The receiver is dovetailed so its easy to mount a scope.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62353/CZ-USA+CZ455+American+22LR
Trainer with sights and a longer barrel:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...5+Training+Rifle+Bolt+22+Long+Rifle+24.8"+5+1
This is a way better gun than anything marlin is making.
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/62353/CZ-USA+CZ455+American+22LR
Trainer with sights and a longer barrel:
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/...5+Training+Rifle+Bolt+22+Long+Rifle+24.8"+5+1
This is a way better gun than anything marlin is making.
Fotheringill
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I would go with the CZ with the tangent sights as shown above in this thread.
Teach to shoot without a scope first.
Teach to shoot without a scope first.
Cheapshooter
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The OP hasn't replayed as to his son's age, or stature. But this looks like a pretty good deal even with adding shipping, and FFL transfer fee.
http://www.jgsales.com/-p-62934.html
http://www.jgsales.com/-p-62934.html
Sure Shot Mc Gee
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IMO: A nice simple bolt action tube or clip fed 22 LR will keep his interest. Reasonably light in weight a bolt action is when compared to a pump, lever or semi-auto and certainly its known to be a whole lot easier to master verses those others. One point I would like to bring up is your child's enrollment in a Gun Safety Course/Class. Which I think is paramount first & foremost. Hopefully your son already has that diploma proudly hanging on his bedroom's wall. If he doesn't. Please!! by all means see that your son attends a G/S Class. He'll benefit, you'll benefit, and those others around you two will benefit the most when guns are around cased or un-cased.
Im with you on that point Sure Shot, and in VA a Hunter Safety Course is mandatory before a child can hunt(except on private property). And you can use that course cert to help get your CCW as you age into that.
I had two too many friends killed in hunting accidents when I was a kid. You almost never hear of that around here anymore. Its been a great improvement.
I had two too many friends killed in hunting accidents when I was a kid. You almost never hear of that around here anymore. Its been a great improvement.
I'm not a fan of youth models, even adjustable as kids outgrew them pretty fast. That's just a personal preference. I like the short/small but adult rifles. I started my son on my Marlin model 75, which is a very short small semi-auto, but at Christmas he had his own Henry. Very short, light rifle, but yet at 20, he still shoots it today, and does not feel like he's still carrying a child's gun.
Though I started him on what I had, I was happy to get away from the semi-auto a few months later. My beef has nothing to do with rapid fire, or shooting a whole magazine, but just about how much more complicated it is for a beginner of the basic safety functions of clearing an verifying a clear chamber in a tube fed .22 auto. Most .22's do not lock open like a pistol, and you can't simply drop the mag, and pull open the slide to clear it. While I also learned that tube magazines are not the greatest for beginners (though most seem to be tube)either, at least with a bolt or lever gun, they can easily lock open the action and at least clear the chamber without having to empty the gun. With the semi, after you chamber the first round, if for any reason you don't want to fire them all, you have to pop loose the magazine tube, pull the bolt back and flip the round out, and then make sure another doesn't go in when you let the action close, while holding the rifle in one hand, pointed in a safe direction, and performing the other functions with your other hand. A bit much for many beginners, and balancing even a small rifle one handed is tough for a lot of kids.
Though I started him on what I had, I was happy to get away from the semi-auto a few months later. My beef has nothing to do with rapid fire, or shooting a whole magazine, but just about how much more complicated it is for a beginner of the basic safety functions of clearing an verifying a clear chamber in a tube fed .22 auto. Most .22's do not lock open like a pistol, and you can't simply drop the mag, and pull open the slide to clear it. While I also learned that tube magazines are not the greatest for beginners (though most seem to be tube)either, at least with a bolt or lever gun, they can easily lock open the action and at least clear the chamber without having to empty the gun. With the semi, after you chamber the first round, if for any reason you don't want to fire them all, you have to pop loose the magazine tube, pull the bolt back and flip the round out, and then make sure another doesn't go in when you let the action close, while holding the rifle in one hand, pointed in a safe direction, and performing the other functions with your other hand. A bit much for many beginners, and balancing even a small rifle one handed is tough for a lot of kids.