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Kimeo, I don't think my kid would have turned into a school shooter.
I do think that repeatedly shooting something that looks like a human is simply not good for you.
If there is a kid with the potential they could, and obviously have in this case, use these to hone their skills increasing the body count once they act.
IMHO it would be far more effective to take away this training tool than to limit magazine size available for instance.
I'm not sure as much as I dislike these games I would be ready to do that but, if our opponents were anything but bald faced liars and hypocrites they would be all over this angle.
 
I understand your angle Scrubcedar, I don't agree with it, but I see your point.

The way I see it, no matter how many games I played, when I actually got my hands on a real rifle, it didn't help me one bit in terms of marksmanship. It was practice and training. Sure the video games allow you to practice hand and eye coordination, but ultimately IMO it has little if any actual affects on the individuals ability to actually harm someone. The concern I see people having is the psychological desensitization of young adolescent children to young adults and how they become numb to the idea of the loss of life.

The way I see it, in the end, regardless of what kind of media that is placed before our children, if they are so disturbed and inclined to handle their problems violently (It's not always that transparent by the way) with or without the influence of video games, movies, literature violent or otherwise, that individual needs to make the concious decision to pick up that rock, bat, knife, gun etc. and actually carry out their horrific acts.

The average individual whom is raised in a stable family and is not mentally defunct does not go off the deep end. Such anger and angst is born from somewhere be it in the home or elsewhere, it is up to the parent to be their for the child and try to instill into them a sense of morals and set an example on how to handle their frustrations and problems responsibly.

Of course there are those cases where the parents did everything by the books and really did try, but each child is different and their personalities play just as big of a role. They will choose to do what they want to do regardless of what others tell them, such is the ways of free will.

There is no easy answer to this, but IMHO, blaming something like movies and video games is just a cop out to escape the responsibility for poor parenting (or not in some cases, again free will). Take responsibility, own up to your actions (or lackthereof) that's how I was raised. I just hope I can instill these beliefs into my future children someday (after I meet a woman who shares them all the same of course).
 
If one has raised a child or is raising a child and doing such a god awful job at it that exposure to violent video games, violent movies or firearms will turn them into a mass murderer I would say the game, movies and guns should be the least of their worries.

Like many I had access to guns as long as I can remember. I also watched violent movies and played some pretty violent video games, though they did not start getting very realistic until my late teens. That did not convince me that the morals or ethics I was taught by my parents were wrong and that I should go shoot everyone the bullied me or angered me in some way.

I was hoping all of this gun control nonsense would lose some steam by now. I suppose it has in many places, but not up in the NE.
 
Some good news
CT SB1078 has been temporarily shelved....there are still lots of other anti bills
in discussion.
The Gov. Malloy I'm sure will soon loose patience, (His own committee has stalled and has asked for more information.) and will institute his own agenda under the guise of emergency powers and the like.

The antis here are still in full swing
 
I think in the end you and I do agree Kimeo.
I'm just not in any way shape or form willing to think that trying to stop this behavior through legislation will work.
There is, as you have stated, free will involved. People with mental illnesses that become obsessed with something are nearly impossible to stop. Listen to the grouchy old nurse on this.
I was pointing to the hypocrisy of our opponents rather than trying to urge action against these games.
 
adamc said:
The Gov. Malloy I'm sure will soon loose patience, (His own committee has stalled and has asked for more information.) and will institute his own agenda under the guise of emergency powers and the like.

The antis here are still in full swing
And it would appear that the CT State Police are right in the thick of it.

[Dons tinfoil hat]

Back on March 17 the NY Daily News reported that the commanding officer of the CT State Police attended a national conference of state police commanders in New Orleans, at which he gave a presentation explaining that the shooter had spent years planning the massacre, and that the shooter had compiled a huge spreadsheet of statistics on other mass killings. The theory espoused was that the shooter DIED regard it like a video game. The spreadsheet was the score column, and the motive was to run up a high enough kill count to put himself at the top of the list.

That's what the Colonel told his colleagues in New Orleans. BUT ... it was supposed to be super-duper-uber secret. The article was written because an attendee blabbed to the reporter, and the CT Colonel was very unhappy about the leak. It seems the CT State Police have not -- repeat NOT -- shared any of this information either with the Governor's task force on "gun violence" or with the legislative bi-partisan committee that's trying to work out the new gun laws.

(Link to article: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lupica-lanza-plotted-massacre-years-article-1.1291408 )

One might think that the people specifically charged with making recommendations that affect the constitutional rights of every person in Connecticut should be given this information but, even after it became public knowledge about the New Orleans presentation the CT State Police have refused to release any information either to the Governor's task force or to the legislature.

Why?

One suggestion is that the CT State Police just don't like "civilians" to have guns. It is well known in Connecticut that for a number of years the State Police went to the legislature every year and tried to get the law changed so that open carry would not be legal even with a permit. The State Police claimed the law was "vague" and "unclear" on the subject. In fact, the law is neither vague nor unclear -- the CT permit is a permit to carry, and nowhere does the law require that carry to be concealed. Ergo: open carry is legal. The State Police don't like that, so they have pretended for years that the says something else. After getting their wrists slapped in court enough times, they then started trying to change the law.

They're probably back this year. I can't help thinking that they are withholding important information from the lask force and from the law makers because they (the State Police) know the information doesn't help support draconian anti-gun legislation, so they'd rather that the information not see the light of day until after the draconian laws have been enacted.

[/tinfoil hat]
 
Agulia, I don't think the hat was required in this case. (I wouldn't lose it just yet, though)
This again points to the need to get the vote out.
It also should be proper ammo to get "The Commander" in dutch with the voting public and do something about his job security.
 
What was the Ct state police colonel talking about 'top secret' info for ?
Yet alone in a multi-state conference ?
I wonder if there will be any disciplinary actions taken ?

IMO the Gov Malloy could not care less.. He just wants his anti stuff to be
pushed through asap, voters be dammed
 
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